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Thief Rogue is too strong
Thief class just feels too strong compared to the other subclass choices, the extra bonus action is just too good.
It's not even a conditional bonus action, it just straight up lets you attack with an offhand weapon, hide, dash, jump, disengage, cast a bonus action spell, drink a potion...

When compared to Assassin, the damage output is similar, you ether get some crits at start of combat, or you get an extra offhand attack every round of combat.

It would make more sense to give thief a free disengage/hide/dash.
3 levels in rogue can be amazing on most other classes just for that extra bonus action, along with the cunning actions.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: It could be that at lower levels the extra bonus action feels stronger than in the mid/late game.
Last edited by MΛRCUS HΞLIUS; Sep 23, 2023 @ 1:59pm
Originally posted by ShockedHearts:
to be fair a lot of things are super strong if you know how to use it.

some subclasses are actually made extremely good if you have the right items for them in game, like rings and stuff for bonuses can make some niche magic builds OP.

Thief rogue is just op because it can cover all its options whenever it wants to, but on its own it will probably get overwhelmed in a huge fight unless the rest of your party makes up for you.

cant stealth snipe in all scenarios.
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ShockedHearts Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:57am 
to be fair a lot of things are super strong if you know how to use it.

some subclasses are actually made extremely good if you have the right items for them in game, like rings and stuff for bonuses can make some niche magic builds OP.

Thief rogue is just op because it can cover all its options whenever it wants to, but on its own it will probably get overwhelmed in a huge fight unless the rest of your party makes up for you.

cant stealth snipe in all scenarios.
Iso Koala Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:23am 
3 levels of Thief-Rogue can help many other classes as a multiclass, but pure thief-rogue (or any rogue) are bottom tier.
Moonbane Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:24am 
Thief is just feels good because it has an extra bonus action, thats it. Otherwise its an extremely lacking subclass, its the bonus action that carries it.
dnelson135 Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:27am 
Working as intended.
v4nd4hl Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:32am 
As a gloom stalker/ champion multiclass main, i find your definition of "too strong" somewhat disputable ; )
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Date Posted: Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:54am
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