the Githyanki patrol encounter is making me uninstall the game

[oozePOP]

I have started the game over multiple times. A huge thing for me in RPGs like this is immersion. I like to roleplay and imagine my playthrough is real with real stakes. One thing I don't like in video games is when it forces you to break your immersion. I stopped playing Witcher 3 after multiple chances because it really hurts to agree to meet someone at a pub and then you have to let him sit there for 5 days while you kill random creatures to level up in a nearby forest.

Likewise, when I decide my character is most entranced with Lae'zel's promise to cure our infection, that is the story line I will be most intrigued by. I even did some other quests in between before fully following up on Lae'zel's quest. I've come across the Githyanki patrol on several different attempts at playing this game, and it just never feels anything close to balanced. I often die before even getting a turn. I'm honestly not sure what to do here except pretend my eyes don't see the hiding Tiefling in the bushes warning me not to go down there, then Lae'zel running off on her own to go down to her fellow Githyanki,

I don't know. Maybe I just don't understand BG3, but I played Disco Elysium, and you can have a series of bad rolls, but still make it through an encounter, even if it's in a scuffed manner that negatively affects the outcome. In BG3, it feels like one bad roll can just ruin everything. I'm really hoping someone can turn me back around to this game with some convincing points because when the game doesn't force me into these awkward and immersion breaking moments, it really feels like a 10/10 game, but at the moment, i think I need to uninstall it, flood my brain with mountains of other media to try and forget how the beginning of BG3 plays out so I can come back to it later fresh and new.

[nuther]

Now I have to start the game again so I can win this fight. This time I talked my way out of it.

Will Ogre horn work here?

[MewTressym]

nuther님이 먼저 게시:

Now I have to start the game again so I can win this fight. This time I talked my way out of it.

Will Ogre horn work here?

Yes, but I'm not sure it will guarantee victory, same for the beholder pokeball.

[nuther]

MewTressym님이 먼저 게시:

nuther님이 먼저 게시:

Now I have to start the game again so I can win this fight. This time I talked my way out of it.

Will Ogre horn work here?

Yes, but I'm not sure it will guarantee victory, same for the beholder pokeball.

Thats fine if they can soak up a few hits. Since Gith are warriors, they should be countered by spells from the party. If you can do this after the Forge you might be level 6.

[Loot]

I always wait until I'm level 5 before I go there, or I get the Ogres to help me if I'm level 3/4.

[cire87]

I was looking for a fight but accidentally ♥♥♥♥ talked them until they left

[Hanariel]

Learn D&D

[Urk_da_WAAAGH!]

If immersion is what you want you may stop being a murder hobo and understand when you are outgunned and talk your way out of the situation.

But something tells me it isn't about immersion, it is about not knowing how to properly play an RPG and just want to fight everything

[id795078477]

That fight didn't change THAT much since EA. So the good old cheese still works on it. You need to recognize the tropes here - and Larian isn't exactly genius when it comes to designing fights. This one in particular follows "get to the talking point that puts you in a huge disadvantage if the fight starts" which is just bs design.

So. Instead - take some ranged characters for it, toggle group mode, destroy the ladders, position your ranged characters there, stack some boxes on the sides of the bridge to obscure / block melee routes, maybe add some grease bottles. That way you'll be shooting fish in the barrel for quite some time.

And of course, send the character that's most likely to survive to trigger the dialogue. You don't have to go all the way in, I think it will trigger the scene while you're still on the middle left ledge from the bridge scaffolding. So that "dialogue" character will still have an edge.

Finally - this fight is stacked against you so there's no shame in preparing. It's absolutely doable to get level 5 before doing it. Then your melees will have equal footing with the enemies and get 2 attacks. Lae'zel then can likely one-shot some of the peskiest enemies with her action surge.

As for bad rolls - I guess you'll have to reload some number of times, before the initiative lands in your favor. But life is pain.

P.S. If this one is hard for you - wait till you get to the Creche. That one is way harder even if you do the Monastery little riddle + get the legendary weapon from it.

[Beast of War]

DUDE !!!

These Githyanki are there to block you leaving Act 1 too soon. And they are pretty good at it.

But you can even talk then down ( no fighting ) or sneak past them when you can cast or drink invisibility. That is pretty useless as the coming fights in the next map will be very hard on you as well, as these are higher level then you, and you should not be there ( yet )

When you did all the quests in the Druid map ( Goblin camp, Aunti Ethels grotto's, Moonhaven, THE ENTIRETY OF THE UNDERDARK and THE GRYM FORGE !!! then you will be level 5-ish and well equipped, and can consider leaving Act 1.

Then that 4 attack Githyanki fighter hits you for 3 dmg per strike ( if she does not miss ) and you return 20+ dmg per strike back, being able to attack 2-3 times yourself.

[dolby]

Beast of War님이 먼저 게시:

DUDE !!!

These Githyanki are there to block you leaving Act 1 too soon. And they are pretty good at it.

no they are not at all, you can walk right pass them and most other crap as well lol...

[Beast of War]

dolby님이 먼저 게시:

Beast of War님이 먼저 게시:

DUDE !!!

These Githyanki are there to block you leaving Act 1 too soon. And they are pretty good at it.

no they are not at all, you can walk right pass them and most other crap as well lol...

I explained that as well.....but what is the purpose of that when in the next map the enemies are all deadly level to you ?

Maybe you can pull that off on the easiest difficulties. But act 3 will be VERY empty and when you skip and cutoff quest lines ( you will leaving act 1, and are warned about that !!! ) all these NPC will never appear in Baldurs gate city.

And i guess will make for another complainer the game sucks, bacause he messed up skipping about 70 % of the games content but doesnt even know it.

[ProestUnicorn]

dolby님이 먼저 게시:

Beast of War님이 먼저 게시:

DUDE !!!

These Githyanki are there to block you leaving Act 1 too soon. And they are pretty good at it.

no they are not at all, you can walk right pass them and most other crap as well lol...

Eh? They most definetly are a pathing tool from games development point of view. They mean to discourage most players from following this path to not skip on tons of content just to end up in act 2 area with much stronger enemies that will make new players uninstall.

Doesn't mean You cannot past them as game is allowing players a lot of freedom, but most non-veteran players will just go back or go and cry on forum, while veterans will know whats up and clear the map first to not miss out on stuff.

[Robin]

that's just balance stuff, like the game wouldn't have the weight it has if you could just slice trough enemyes like you were some sort of action movie hero, you have to respect and be carefull of other equally if not stronger individuals, still it doesn't stop you from strategizing a way to annihilate them, just don't expect to beat an elite recon team as a low level party of wierdos

[Scheneighnay]

It made me decide it's time for total Gith death.

It's worse when you meet the gith monks and they start killing your characters from full health in 1 turn because they get a thousand attacks

[Leto]

If you are lvl 5, the fight is much easier because of the second attack.
Otherwise, you can win practically every difficult fight by using haste, potion, scroll spells, it doesn't matter.
the hardest one is the fighter with the nice 2h sword, just disarm her, then the fight is only half as hard.