What is the most efficient, reliable way to freeze?

[MOK]

I like thunder. I want to use thunder. Even better, a thunder hammer. But things aren't vulnerable enough to thunder!
UNLESS THEY'RE FROZEN. https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Frozen_(Condition)
So I need to get a dedicated Mr Freeze up in my party.

I'm not aware of a way to inflict frozen other than to first succeed in getting them Chilled, then get them wet. And the only source of Chilled I know is procs from A) Mourningfrost staff, B) Cold Snap knife, or C) Flail of Ages.
In each of those, it can be resisted by a relatively easy CON save, in a game that's pretty thick on +CON.

So right to the point, does anyone here actually combo into Frozen reliably? What method or sequence of actions do you go about in making dudes frozen? Because getting it to happen feels a bit demanding and has not been very reliable. And using a well timed cast of create water is also not very efficient, given the short opportunity window. So is there another way?
All I want to do in this game is thunder them into pieces and cackle, everything else be damned.

[Moffin Bovin]

there are 2 items that freeze that i know of. one is a pair of gloves called winters clutches and the other is the coldbrim hat. one adds 2 stacks of "encrusted with frost" each time you do cold damage (but only to one target i think) and the other applies 2 stacks of encrusted with frost when you apply a condition once per turn. Combined they give 4 stacks in 1 turn and if you get an enemy to 7 stacks it has to make a save or freeze.


the other way is to just wet them and then hit them with any cold spell.

the save againt being frozen in my game atm is dc12. no idea what sets that. my wizard is int 20 so it should be much higher. a lore bard helps because you get to take d8 off of an enemy's save.

[MOK]

I tried the Encrusted With Frost route, but doesn't really work. They die to cold, not thunder, having never been frozen, or having been frozen with 3 hp left, and after multiple turns.
With fire or electricity, it's just a simple setup and then ignition. A hasted character could do it in the same turn. Thunder though? *sigh*

But you raise the point about dumping enemies' constitution save. I think this might be the route I have to focus on. Maybe curse. Bleed. Oil of Bane. That lore bard sounds great, but I don't got one.

What else can tank an enemies constitution roll results?

That's still only 1/3 of the recipe though. Still got to inflict Chilled reliably.

I could keep Fire Shield and Armor of Agathys up on the Mourningfrost weilder. Could use a lot of Ice Storm casts to maximize rolls without doing too much damage. But committing to this route is doing backflips while purposefully being weak.

Or I guess I could equip someone with Flail of Ages and Coldsnap together, try to get mobs to attack them as much as possible. Thinking Coldsnap might be the best option.
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Cold_Snap

Heh, this is a very stupid endeavor. But by god I WILL thunder some frozen fools. Somehow.