Gloves of dexterity

[Siragatatu]

If i build a dexterity class and put 0 points on dexterity but i equip the gloves, i get 18 dexterity right, doesn’t matter if it come from a item right ? That way i can have extra points to put in another stats

[Frost]

Yep. You can never go above 18 though, even if you put a point into it or increase it by other means, which is the downside.

[MOK]

Gloves are also a pretty important slot. Classes tend to shine most when their abilities are paired with knock-on effects that come from gear. So filling the gloves slot is a pretty appreciable sacrifice. Depending on what you're doing though, it could be worth it.

[guppy]

Originally posted by DragonZXOfficial:

If i build a dexterity class and put 0 points on dexterity but i equip the gloves, i get 18 dexterity right, doesn’t matter if it come from a item right ? That way i can have extra points to put in another stats

Just be ware that for skill checks they seem to apply a negative modifier also.
Eg. int 8 ( -1 ) with the ogre crown in 17 ( +3 ) means skill checks get both modifiers, I assume it would be the same for the dex gloves. using 2 points to get dex 10 would avoid the issue.

[guppy]

Originally posted by MOK:

Gloves are also a pretty important slot. Classes tend to shine most when their abilities are paired with knock-on effects that come from gear. So filling the gloves slot is a pretty appreciable sacrifice. Depending on what you're doing though, it could be worth it.

Gave them to karlach and never looked back, super dex save and extra 'free' armor.

[MOK]

Originally posted by guppy:

Originally posted by DragonZXOfficial:

If i build a dexterity class and put 0 points on dexterity but i equip the gloves, i get 18 dexterity right, doesn’t matter if it come from a item right ? That way i can have extra points to put in another stats

Just be ware that for skill checks they seem to apply a negative modifier also.
Eg. int 8 ( -1 ) with the ogre crown in 17 ( +3 ) means skill checks get both modifiers, I assume it would be the same for the dex gloves. using 2 points to get dex 10 would avoid the issue.

Maybe i'm remembering wrong, but the math counters the original deficit. equipping that crown always results in a final +3, and not 3-1.

[Siragatatu]

ok, ty for the info

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by DragonZXOfficial:

If i build a dexterity class and put 0 points on dexterity but i equip the gloves, i get 18 dexterity right, doesn’t matter if it come from a item right ? That way i can have extra points to put in another stats

Yeah and it sounds impressive ... until you realise that you just can't dump all those points into other skills beyond a certain threshold + you loose the (very) important glove slot + while dex is good for AC, for most characters being very proficient in their main skill is enough.

[MOK]

Originally posted by Swimfan:

Yeah and it sounds impressive ... until you realise that you just can't dump all those points into other skills beyond a certain threshold + you loose the (very) important glove slot + while dex is good for AC, for most characters being very proficient in their main skill is enough.

That's what I found over time. Early game, it's great. But over time, focusing in multiple areas becomes untenable. Usually. And I've seen gloves tend to have a lot of build defining temporary effect options.

Putting them on Shadowheart got me the most mileage in my playthrough, trying to play Trickster domain on it's own terms.

[victorvnv]

I use them exclusively for my low initiative companions , like shadowhearth or my casters as this combined with something else that gives + to initiative gives makes sure they don’t lag behind on the action

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by MOK:

Originally posted by Swimfan:

Yeah and it sounds impressive ... until you realise that you just can't dump all those points into other skills beyond a certain threshold + you loose the (very) important glove slot + while dex is good for AC, for most characters being very proficient in their main skill is enough.

That's what I found over time. Early game, it's great. But over time, focusing in multiple areas becomes untenable. Usually. And I've seen gloves tend to have a lot of build defining temporary effect options.

Putting them on Shadowheart got me the most mileage in my playthrough, trying to play Trickster domain on it's own terms.

I normally just respec her domain. She's much better as a pure support.

[MOK]

Originally posted by Swimfan:

I normally just respec her domain. She's much better as a pure support.

I tried that, but then I felt like I was betraying the character's story and theme and her personality. I switched back to Trickery and just forced myself to make it work on it's terms. It's not easy, but it's doable, and can be effective.

[guppy]

Originally posted by MOK:

Originally posted by guppy:

Just be ware that for skill checks they seem to apply a negative modifier also.
Eg. int 8 ( -1 ) with the ogre crown in 17 ( +3 ) means skill checks get both modifiers, I assume it would be the same for the dex gloves. using 2 points to get dex 10 would avoid the issue.

Maybe i'm remembering wrong, but the math counters the original deficit. equipping that crown always results in a final +3, and not 3-1.

Either that or they patched it, I stopped using it on my gnome mage hireling - was dumping his int for dex/con, since I went elemental adept anyway and so couldn't get 18 int till much later.