Ethel not in the Grove?

[Lampros]

I have heard she sells a lot of useful potions, if she is found in the Grove, but I cannot find her there. Instead, she seems to be near the Blighted Village, arguing with two dudes. Does this mean I am forever locked out of her shop now?

[Lord Doober De La Goober MXI]

she in the intro once you get to the grove she's near the gruel lady. you're past a certain point so she moved on.

[Silyon]

Not exactly, you've just started her little side-quest because you told her about your eyeball friend. Help her deal with those vile ruffians trying to rob an innocent granny, and you'll have another chance to trade with her once she gets home.

[Garviel Loken]

Originally posted by Lampros:

I have heard she sells a lot of useful potions, if she is found in the Grove, but I cannot find her there. Instead, she seems to be near the Blighted Village, arguing with two dudes. Does this mean I am forever locked out of her shop now?

She doesn't sell anything you will really need or won't get in abundance soon after.

[deadsanta]

Originally posted by FE15 Illusion:

Originally posted by Lampros:

I have heard she sells a lot of useful potions, if she is found in the Grove, but I cannot find her there. Instead, she seems to be near the Blighted Village, arguing with two dudes. Does this mean I am forever locked out of her shop now?

She doesn't sell anything you will really need or won't get in abundance soon after.

No, she gets 3 hill giant elixirs every restock, those things are gold, especially for tavern-brawler melee'ers.

[Garviel Loken]

Originally posted by deadsanta:

Originally posted by FE15 Illusion:

She doesn't sell anything you will really need or won't get in abundance soon after.

No, she gets 3 hill giant elixirs every restock, those things are gold, especially for tavern-brawler melee'ers.

Seems like a waste of money I would rather have in act 3 and you can make potions yourself.

[Silyon]

Originally posted by deadsanta:

Originally posted by FE15 Illusion:

She doesn't sell anything you will really need or won't get in abundance soon after.

No, she gets 3 hill giant elixirs every restock, those things are gold, especially for tavern-brawler melee'ers.

She is your earliest source of them, but most alchemist traders through the game will keep refreshing stock of them or the fingers to make them.

[Fringehunter7719]

After the event with the two brothers is resolved she moves to her teahouse.

If you speak to her there you can trade by clicking the icon near the very bottom left of the screen whenever at a dialogue choice, same as with most other NPCs. Her inventory appears to be the same as it was at the grove.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Lord Doober De La Goober MXI:

she in the intro once you get to the grove she's near the gruel lady. you're past a certain point so she moved on.

Damn, that sucks.

Originally posted by Silyon:

Not exactly, you've just started her little side-quest because you told her about your eyeball friend. Help her deal with those vile ruffians trying to rob an innocent granny, and you'll have another chance to trade with her once she gets home.

Oh, fantastic! But that means I cannot rescue the girl either?

Originally posted by FE15 Illusion:

She doesn't sell anything you will really need or won't get in abundance soon after.

Huh? I thought she sells valuable strength potions?

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

After the event with the two brothers is resolved she moves to her teahouse.

If you speak to her there you can trade by clicking the icon near the very bottom left of the screen whenever at a dialogue choice, same as with most other NPCs. Her inventory appears to be the same as it was at the grove.

Again, can I still rescue the girl if I side with Ethel in the conflict with the brothers?

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Silyon:

Not exactly, you've just started her little side-quest because you told her about your eyeball friend. Help her deal with those vile ruffians trying to rob an innocent granny, and you'll have another chance to trade with her once she gets home.

Oh, fantastic! But that means I cannot rescue the girl either?

You can, but if you start that chain of events (from any point where you anger Ethel) you can't trade with her any more. Pretty sure you can defer that bit as long as you like without penalty though (See Edit).

Originally posted by Lampros:

Huh? I thought she sells valuable strength potions?

Yes, she restocks three Elixir of Hill Giant Strength every long rest. And possibly when you level up as well, not sure.

Originally posted by Lampros:

Again, can I still rescue the girl if I side with Ethel in the conflict with the brothers?

You can. Though their fate might be settled there and that might influence Mayrina's attitude towards you.

You can also still trade with Ethel if you side with the brothers. Which can also lead to them immediately being killed, which weirdly depends on exactly which dialogue path you pick.

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Edit: Just spent 10 minutes testing what happens if you long rest x3 after Ethel sends Mayrina away, then quickly stealth+jump spell+slowfall to the lair.

Mayrina is still alive and exactly where she usually is, so delaying for three long rests seems to have no discernible impact on the quest.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Fringehunter7719:

Originally posted by Lampros:

Oh, fantastic! But that means I cannot rescue the girl either?

You can, but if you start that chain of events (from any point where you anger Ethel) you can't trade with her any more. Pretty sure you can defer that bit as long as you like without penalty though (See Edit).

Originally posted by Lampros:

Huh? I thought she sells valuable strength potions?

Yes, she restocks three Elixir of Hill Giant Strength every long rest. And possibly when you level up as well, not sure.

Originally posted by Lampros:

Again, can I still rescue the girl if I side with Ethel in the conflict with the brothers?

You can. Though their fate might be settled there and that might influence Mayrina's attitude towards you.

You can also still trade with Ethel if you side with the brothers. Which can also lead to them immediately being killed, which weirdly depends on exactly which dialogue path you pick.

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Edit: Just spent 10 minutes testing what happens if you long rest x3 after Ethel sends Mayrina away, then quickly stealth+jump spell+slowfall to the lair.

Mayrina is still alive and exactly where she usually is, so delaying for three long rests seems to have no discernible impact on the quest.

I helped her get rid of the brothers and met her at her house, but she only gives me the option to remove my eye? She has no merchant option ;(

[Vheissu]

there's a "trade" button at the bottom left of the screen when you are talking to her. You can trade with basically any character that you can talk to.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Vheissu:

there's a "trade" button at the bottom left of the screen when you are talking to her. You can trade with basically any character that you can talk to.

Okay, let me try again then.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Vheissu:

there's a "trade" button at the bottom left of the screen when you are talking to her. You can trade with basically any character that you can talk to.

Okay, it works!!!; thanks!

[Fringehunter7719]

Oh, beaten to the punch. Oh well:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3035034280

[Vheissu]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Vheissu:

there's a "trade" button at the bottom left of the screen when you are talking to her. You can trade with basically any character that you can talk to.

Okay, it works!!!; thanks!

Cheers!