Straight men get the shaft in BG3 romances?

[Kiyoi Kuusoo]

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Not trying to start a huge debate but seriously curious. Romance was a great addition to BG2 and gave it depth but here it seems...off.

I know Larian said they wanted romance to feel real but as a straight guy who usually plays Lawful/Neutral Good I feel like I'm being shafted here. My choices for romance are Shadowheart, a cleric who worships a Neutral Evil goddess of death and trickery and Lae'zel, who I quote from Larian:

“So, Lae'zel, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy,” .... “So if you sleep with Lae'zel one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’"

So it's either an evil route or a non-monogamy route and feel cheated on. Will there be no other female companions/romances? I wasn't sure if they said so or not.

Still buying the game regardless but just curious.

[Gunslinger]

i would guess there will be others

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Kiyoi Kuusoo:

!!PLEASE READ WHOLE POST BEFORE GOING OFF ON ME!!

Not trying to start a huge debate but seriously curious. Romance was a great addition to BG2 and gave it depth but here it seems...off.

I know Larian said they wanted romance to feel real but as a straight guy who usually plays Lawful/Neutral Good I feel like I'm being shafted here. My choices for romance are Shadowheart, a cleric who worships a Neutral Evil goddess of death and trickery and Lae'zel, who I quote from Larian:

“So, Lae'zel, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy,” .... “So if you sleep with Lae'zel one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’"

So it's either an evil route or a non-monogamy route and feel cheated on. Will there be no other female companions/romances? I wasn't sure if they said so or not.

Still buying the game regardless but just curious.

From what is seen of her in the demo, Shadowheart does not strike me as evil, more likely grouchy edgelord neutral.
Shar can and is worshipped by non-evil aligned characters.

Lae'zel... Well, guess it's about preferences.

Also pretty sure there will be more options as they said, that more origins and companions will show up.

[Jesus Christ]

Mor companions are coming in the full game. How many more is unknown. But I'm sure more female options will appear.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by Dargon:

Mor companions are coming in the full game. How many more is unknown. But I'm sure more female options will appear.

You can be certain more female options will come out. Personally, I want to have fun with Lae'zel... I am going to play a Githyanki male eldritch knight on final release.

[Tanist]

Originally posted by Kiyoi Kuusoo:

!!PLEASE READ WHOLE POST BEFORE GOING OFF ON ME!!

Not trying to start a huge debate but seriously curious. Romance was a great addition to BG2 and gave it depth but here it seems...off.

I know Larian said they wanted romance to feel real but as a straight guy who usually plays Lawful/Neutral Good I feel like I'm being shafted here. My choices for romance are Shadowheart, a cleric who worships a Neutral Evil goddess of death and trickery and Lae'zel, who I quote from Larian:

“So, Lae'zel, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy,” .... “So if you sleep with Lae'zel one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’"

So it's either an evil route or a non-monogamy route and feel cheated on. Will there be no other female companions/romances? I wasn't sure if they said so or not.

Still buying the game regardless but just curious.

Is that quote true?

If so, game is already turning out to be garbage. DA3, all over again.

This is why I stopped DMing years ago. All these stupid mentally ill people just want to spend hours f'ing on paper rather than playing a game.

I give up, gaming is dead.

[DocCovington]

Originally posted by Kiyoi Kuusoo:

Straight men get the shaft in BG3 romances?

We don't know yet what companions will be available, so your assessment might be a little premature.

I was pretty miffed that my male character (I am female in RL, btw) in Pillars of Eternity 2 only had one female to get involved with (or at least it was the only option I would get during my one playthrough), namely Xoti, a character with low intelligence and an unbearable redneck accent. Bleh.

I am all for diversity, so I would appreciate if BG3 had more options than that, but in general, romances aren't my priority in a CRPG. ;)

[Decker]

Originally posted by Tanist:

Originally posted by Kiyoi Kuusoo:

!!PLEASE READ WHOLE POST BEFORE GOING OFF ON ME!!

Not trying to start a huge debate but seriously curious. Romance was a great addition to BG2 and gave it depth but here it seems...off.

I know Larian said they wanted romance to feel real but as a straight guy who usually plays Lawful/Neutral Good I feel like I'm being shafted here. My choices for romance are Shadowheart, a cleric who worships a Neutral Evil goddess of death and trickery and Lae'zel, who I quote from Larian:

“So, Lae'zel, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy,” .... “So if you sleep with Lae'zel one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’"

So it's either an evil route or a non-monogamy route and feel cheated on. Will there be no other female companions/romances? I wasn't sure if they said so or not.

Still buying the game regardless but just curious.

Is that quote true?

If so, game is already turning out to be garbage. DA3, all over again.

This is why I stopped DMing years ago. All these stupid mentally ill people just want to spend hours f'ing on paper rather than playing a game.

I give up, gaming is dead.

Ok boomer.

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by Gunslinger:

i would guess there will be others

I am with you on this we have not seen all of the companions yet it's best to wait until we have seen all of the companions that will be in BG3 first

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Tanist:

Originally posted by Kiyoi Kuusoo:

!!PLEASE READ WHOLE POST BEFORE GOING OFF ON ME!!

Not trying to start a huge debate but seriously curious. Romance was a great addition to BG2 and gave it depth but here it seems...off.

I know Larian said they wanted romance to feel real but as a straight guy who usually plays Lawful/Neutral Good I feel like I'm being shafted here. My choices for romance are Shadowheart, a cleric who worships a Neutral Evil goddess of death and trickery and Lae'zel, who I quote from Larian:

“So, Lae'zel, she’s the Githyanki. And Githyanki don’t really do monogamy,” .... “So if you sleep with Lae'zel one night at camp, the next night you might well just find her sleeping with somebody else. And she’s going to be like, ‘oh, that was a bit of fun, wasn’t it? How are you doing?’"

So it's either an evil route or a non-monogamy route and feel cheated on. Will there be no other female companions/romances? I wasn't sure if they said so or not.

Still buying the game regardless but just curious.

Is that quote true?

If so, game is already turning out to be garbage. DA3, all over again.

This is why I stopped DMing years ago. All these stupid mentally ill people just want to spend hours f'ing on paper rather than playing a game.

I give up, gaming is dead.

Gaming is dead? Romance options have been a part of CRPGs for a VERY long time. And they're also always optional. (Or at least I haven't seen one where its not optional)

[Tanist]

Originally posted by Dargon:

Originally posted by Tanist:

Is that quote true?

If so, game is already turning out to be garbage. DA3, all over again.

This is why I stopped DMing years ago. All these stupid mentally ill people just want to spend hours f'ing on paper rather than playing a game.

I give up, gaming is dead.

Gaming is dead? Romance options have been a part of CRPGs for a VERY long time. And they're also always optional. (Or at least I haven't seen one where its not optional)

There is a difference between romance and essentially F'ing around in game. Seriously, the fact that they actually are writing in sexual conduct stories such as "she isn't in to monogamy, so don't be surprised if she is screwing the rest of the camp, but hey... maybe you can be her c-uckold!"

Romance has been done in the past, the concept of two people sharing experiences, it building etc... is common in some cRPGs, but the progression of "F'ing" in has become more common these days with people who seem to be more interested in sexual fantasy than they are in gaming.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Tanist:

Originally posted by Dargon:

Gaming is dead? Romance options have been a part of CRPGs for a VERY long time. And they're also always optional. (Or at least I haven't seen one where its not optional)

There is a difference between romance and essentially F'ing around in game. Seriously, the fact that they actually are writing in sexual conduct stories such as "she isn't in to monogamy, so don't be surprised if she is screwing the rest of the camp, but hey... maybe you can be her cuck!"

Romance has been done in the past, the concept of two people sharing experiences, it building etc... is common in some cRPGs, but the progression of "F'ing" in has become more common these days with people who seem to be more interested in sexual fantasy than they are in gaming.

You're generalizing. Is it hard to believe that someone wants to play a fun game. A good adventure with companions with a good story and good combat and also want to get down on the side? Or is it that anyone who wants the sexcapades ONLY wants that?

[Tanist]

Originally posted by Dargon:

Originally posted by Tanist:

There is a difference between romance and essentially F'ing around in game. Seriously, the fact that they actually are writing in sexual conduct stories such as "she isn't in to monogamy, so don't be surprised if she is screwing the rest of the camp, but hey... maybe you can be her cuck!"

Romance has been done in the past, the concept of two people sharing experiences, it building etc... is common in some cRPGs, but the progression of "F'ing" in has become more common these days with people who seem to be more interested in sexual fantasy than they are in gaming.

You're generalizing. Is it hard to believe that someone wants to play a fun game. A good adventure with companions with a good story and good combat and also want to get down on the side? Or is it that anyone who wants the sexcapades ONLY wants that?

It is mentally ill that this is desired in these games. You want to get off on a game, I am sure there are plenty of porn games out there that can fulfill that deviant desire, but expecting a non-porn game to fulfill porn desires is just, well, it shows that people can't separate their sex desires and that is a mentally ill issue.

The problem is, it then spills over into people who want nothing to do with that childish behavior and you end with games like DoS2 and DA2/3, Mass Effect 3, etc... where characters are pushing it.

I used to DM a lot, put a lot of time in adventures, the stories, the designs for encounters and it got the point that a bunch of immature adults only wanted to sit around like perverts and fantasize about how they would have sex with a character. That is mentally ill.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Tanist:

Originally posted by Dargon:

You're generalizing. Is it hard to believe that someone wants to play a fun game. A good adventure with companions with a good story and good combat and also want to get down on the side? Or is it that anyone who wants the sexcapades ONLY wants that?

It is mentally ill that this is desired in these games. You want to get off on a game, I am sure there are plenty of porn games out there that can fulfill that deviant desire, but expecting a non-porn game to fulfill porn desires is just, well, it shows that people can't separate their sex desires and that is a mentally ill issue.

The problem is, it then spills over into people who want nothing to do with that childish behavior and you end with games like DoS2 and DA2/3, Mass Effect 3, etc... where characters are pushing it.

I used to DM a lot, put a lot of time in adventures, the stories, the designs for encounters and it got the point that a bunch of immature adults only wanted to sit around like perverts and fantasize about how they would have sex with a character. That is mentally ill.

Right. The thing you don't like makes people mentally ill. Gotcha. Were done.

[Tanist]

Originally posted by Dargon:

Originally posted by Tanist:

It is mentally ill that this is desired in these games. You want to get off on a game, I am sure there are plenty of porn games out there that can fulfill that deviant desire, but expecting a non-porn game to fulfill porn desires is just, well, it shows that people can't separate their sex desires and that is a mentally ill issue.

The problem is, it then spills over into people who want nothing to do with that childish behavior and you end with games like DoS2 and DA2/3, Mass Effect 3, etc... where characters are pushing it.

I used to DM a lot, put a lot of time in adventures, the stories, the designs for encounters and it got the point that a bunch of immature adults only wanted to sit around like perverts and fantasize about how they would have sex with a character. That is mentally ill.

Right. The thing you don't like makes people mentally ill. Gotcha. Were done.

No, the desire to have sexual fantasies in a video game is mentally ill, sexually focused, not normal behavior for healthy minds.

Nothing wrong with sex, nothing wrong with wanting to have it, but taking a game and then trying to make it a focal point for the SEX part is mentally ill. Romance isn't sex, love is not sex, you can have all the elements of a romantic story development of characters and not focus on the sex part in the game.

It used to be in the movies, where there was a romantic encounter, it was a fade to black on the start of the encounter. We as normal adults, understood what was happening, we didn't need to obsess over the details, we weren't children who were fascinated by it.

Today though? Apparently, people can't seem to figure out what happens unless it is shown in express detail, or... in games, where they can fantasize about the actions.

Maybe Larian should put in action hot keys so you can pound various keys to simulate your "romance", don't want to deprive people of their "romance" do you? I mean, they are just expressing their love in game!

It is stupid, immature, mentally ill behavior, but hey.. we praise mentally ill these days, even encourage it.

[Lee]

I just wanna go balls deep in some ugly green ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥