Magic Weapon Is A Pointless Spell

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

I mean, if we could use it on magical weapons that didn't already have an enchantment bonus on them, then we could at least use it to enhance some of our already existing weapons (for example, imagine turning Short Sword of First Blood into Short Sword of First Blood +1). And the scaling would be fine too as we level.

The problem is that we already find an abundance of enchanted +1 weapons (and I can only assume we'll continue to find their more powerful counterparts).

So what's the point? Permanently sacrifice a spell slot and your concentration to get a weapon bonus on a non-magical weapon you should have replaced with a magical version anyway?

Give it the ability to enchant magical weapons with no enchantment bonus and it will be worthwhile.

[/Dreamcatcher]

magic weapon is useful to have a magic stick for example

[SpaceNvader]

Publicado originalmente por sevensided:

Publicado originalmente por Buggy Clown King Kanye Number 1:

Most 5E spells are boring AF anyway, I'm glad they're homebrewing most of the system

So...most DnD (regardless of edition) spells are boring to you, then? Because there is scant difference between 3.5 spells and 5e spells.

Except the fact that 3.5e has many multiple more published spells than 5e.

[sauve1028]

The one use this spell has is, If you need a magical weapon to hit a monster and you don't have one. Well this is what the spell is good for.

[dolby]

Publicado originalmente por Pan Darius Loveless:

Publicado originalmente por IgnatiusJ.Reilly:

Larian's version stacks with the +x of the weapon its cast on. So, a +1 Glaive becomes a +2 Glaive. Maybe it's a bug, I don't know. I still wouldn't use it, it's super easy to hit things in BG3.

Does it really?

yes really...

like i told you 100 times already over past 3 years you are bad at this game.

You post about stuff you never even tryed in game. At least this time around you'r not alone clearly most people never tryed the spell...

i mean not like you did it the first time, nothign new. For start if you gonna make a threads like this at least use the spell in game, first...

[zeeb]

The spell is useful if you haven't gotten your hands on a magic weapon before you meet an enemy that is resistant/immune to normal weapons. However, that risk is quite low, but it's still there, so it needs to exist. There will be a lot of beginners playing the game that might find it useful.

So pointless to you in particular? Maybe.
Pointless overall? Definitely not.

[dolby]

Publicado originalmente por zeeb:

The spell is useful if you haven't gotten your hands on a magic weapon before you meet an enemy that is resistant/immune to normal weapons. However, that risk is quite low, but it's still there, so it needs to exist. There will be a lot of beginners playing the game that might find it useful.

So pointless to you in particular? Maybe.
Pointless overall? Definitely not.

at least go test the spell before you post misinformation like this..

[Neonivek]

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

Publicado originalmente por zeeb:

The spell is useful if you haven't gotten your hands on a magic weapon before you meet an enemy that is resistant/immune to normal weapons. However, that risk is quite low, but it's still there, so it needs to exist. There will be a lot of beginners playing the game that might find it useful.

So pointless to you in particular? Maybe.
Pointless overall? Definitely not.

at least go test the spell before you post misinformation like this..

I... honestly can't tell what is wrong about what is said.

Anyhow the earliest enemy you would have a problem with (before you'd pretty much have magic weapons) are ghost-type enemies and immune being lycans.

BG3 however flushes you with magic weapons pretty early. I am not even sure you get the opportunity to need it. It is to the point where I am not even sure why it is included.

[zeeb]

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

Publicado originalmente por zeeb:

The spell is useful if you haven't gotten your hands on a magic weapon before you meet an enemy that is resistant/immune to normal weapons. However, that risk is quite low, but it's still there, so it needs to exist. There will be a lot of beginners playing the game that might find it useful.

So pointless to you in particular? Maybe.
Pointless overall? Definitely not.

at least go test the spell before you post misinformation like this..

Palm + face.

Tell us you don't know how Magic Weapon works, without telling us you don't know how Magic Weapon works.

You need to read up on the spell yourself since you clearly have no idea what it actually does..

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Magic_Weapon

Infuse a weapon with arcane energy. The weapon becomes magical, receiving a +1 bonus to Attack and Damage rolls.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/magic-weapon

You touch a nonmagical weapon. Until the spell ends, that weapon becomes a magic weapon with a +1 bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/16871-ghost

Damage Resistances:
Acid, Fire, Lightning, Thunder; Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing from Nonmagical Attacks.

[Yojo0o]

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

Publicado originalmente por Pan Darius Loveless:

Does it really?

yes really...

like i told you 100 times already over past 3 years you are bad at this game.

You post about stuff you never even tryed in game. At least this time around you'r not alone clearly most people never tryed the spell...

i mean not like you did it the first time, nothign new. For start if you gonna make a threads like this at least use the spell in game, first...

It wouldn't even slightly inconvenience you to say "Actually, the spell is implemented differently in BG3 than it is in tabletop".

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Publicado originalmente por zeeb:

The spell is useful if you haven't gotten your hands on a magic weapon before you meet an enemy that is resistant/immune to normal weapons. However, that risk is quite low, but it's still there, so it needs to exist. There will be a lot of beginners playing the game that might find it useful.

So pointless to you in particular? Maybe.
Pointless overall? Definitely not.

That's not relevant at all in BG3, which is the point.

The smith in the Grove will literally make you any type of +1 weapon you want.

[dolby]

Publicado originalmente por Yojo0o:

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

yes really...

like i told you 100 times already over past 3 years you are bad at this game.

You post about stuff you never even tryed in game. At least this time around you'r not alone clearly most people never tryed the spell...

i mean not like you did it the first time, nothign new. For start if you gonna make a threads like this at least use the spell in game, first...

It wouldn't even slightly inconvenience you to say "Actually, the spell is implemented differently in BG3 than it is in tabletop".

Why, so hecan ignore everything i say anyway... just like zeeb... maybe people should stop talking about subject they have zero clue about? hey just maybe...


but hey that's just me i guess...

[dolby]

Publicado originalmente por Neonivek:

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

at least go test the spell before you post misinformation like this..

I... honestly can't tell what is wrong about what is said.

Anyhow the earliest enemy you would have a problem with (before you'd pretty much have magic weapons) are ghost-type enemies and immune being lycans.

BG3 however flushes you with magic weapons pretty early. I am not even sure you get the opportunity to need it. It is to the point where I am not even sure why it is included.

problem is he didnt try the spell in game none one did... teh spell works nothing at all like it does in dnd 5e... it's totally homebrewed and everyone is talking about the spell unaware of how it works in BG 3.

Again for the last time it stacks with any enchantments the weapons already have meaning if you have a +2 weapon and you cast this spell on it!

You get +3 weapon or whatever the case may be. It's probably bugged but again with Larian you never know.

Game is full of Op examples like this... we have potions that give Aoe effects or let say 21 Str.. and 101 other op homebrew so one can't just know what is intended and what not.

With Larian you can't tell not untill we get full release, that is...

[dolby]

Publicado originalmente por zeeb:

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

at least go test the spell before you post misinformation like this..

Palm + face.

Tell us you don't know how Magic Weapon works, without telling us you don't know how Magic Weapon works.

You need to read up on the spell yourself since you clearly have no idea what it actually does..

https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Magic_Weapon


https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/magic-weapon

https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/16871-ghost

Damage Resistances:
Acid, Fire, Lightning, Thunder; Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing from Nonmagical Attacks.

for the love of god go test it in game stop reading and posting just go test it in game cast it on +2 weapon and see what happens...

[zeeb]

Publicado originalmente por dolby:

Publicado originalmente por zeeb:

Palm + face.

Tell us you don't know how Magic Weapon works, without telling us you don't know how Magic Weapon works.

You need to read up on the spell yourself since you clearly have no idea what it actually does..



https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/16871-ghost

for the love of god go test it in game stop reading and posting just go test it in game cast it on +2 weapon and see what happens...

You're a complete donkey.

[Meowella]

Publicado originalmente por Pan Darius Loveless:

I mean, if we could use it on magical weapons that didn't already have an enchantment bonus on them, then we could at least use it to enhance some of our already existing weapons (for example, imagine turning Short Sword of First Blood into Short Sword of First Blood +1). And the scaling would be fine too as we level.

The problem is that we already find an abundance of enchanted +1 weapons (and I can only assume we'll continue to find their more powerful counterparts).

So what's the point? Permanently sacrifice a spell slot and your concentration to get a weapon bonus on a non-magical weapon you should have replaced with a magical version anyway?

Give it the ability to enchant magical weapons with no enchantment bonus and it will be worthwhile.

It's only a bad spell because Larian have to create their own game without following the dnd system too closely.

In tabletop, you DONT get magic weapons every 5 minutes - but changing the spell just for the video game isn't worthwhile, so you have to accept some spells like this don't translate as effectively.

Also regarding someone saying 5th spells are more boring than 3rd hasn't played enough tabletop dnd before to appreciate the strength of 5th edition. It may lack save or die spells from an early age but the spells are still fun to use, like an Arcane Trickster using Hypnotic Pattern on people with disadvantage (thanks to subclass features) so you go 1 by 1 and finish them off; or grease then using your invisible mage hand to wrap a cloak around the eyes of an enemy caster so they can't see, fall over and you chuckle before poking them with sneak attack damage.