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Lunduke is the Trump of tech Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:12am
Is this really EA tho?
EA is when they release everything they have made so far on the game, with the imperfections and bugs and all that. But what they've done is release just a demo of the game, they won't give us everything they've worked on. So isn't this really more like just a demo, not EA. Demos are supposed to be free though, so I think this EA thing is just an exploitation to make profit without giving us a real EA, they are giving us a little demo and getting paid for it.

Or maybe it's more like EA of a demo?
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Originally posted by magickblog:
Regarding certain people who keep asking me to repeat the evidence. I'll briefly summarize it here.

Paid demos

Paid = all people pay full price in advance (conform)

According to wikipedia demo
=A game demo is a trial version of a video game that is limited to a certain time limit or a point in progress, which leads to the player buying the game if they liked it.
=Generally, playable demos are stripped-down versions of the full game, restricting game-play to some levels, only allowing access to some features, or limiting the amount of time playable in the game
=now bg3 version ( conform)

Wikipedia's ea=is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can purchase and play a game in the various pre-release development cycles, such as pre-alpha, alpha, and/or beta, while the developer is able to use those funds to continue further development on the game
.≠The same people who claim its current version for ea yet don't think Larian needs our money to develop bg3（Unable to confirm）

steam‘s ea
=Get immediate access to games that are being developed with the community's involvement
=now bg3 version
≠developers update and add content（The current bg3 stopped doing this a long time ago，Unable to confirm）

larian’s ea
=the Early Access version of Baldur’s Gate 3 includes Act 1 of the game
≠The complete first act（Difficult to confirm）


In summary, at this stage this game is only a paid demo and does not meet the definition of most ea.
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Jon Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:27am 
Its 'barely access' there was an oopsie and the wrong box was checked when the game was submitted.
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Marmottty Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:27am 
I always be careful with this kind of OP. I've seen that during the last years each time the theme was like that it was to start a fight.
But here a genuinely answer:
- If you had to pay for the full game then it would not be an EA. Do you have to pay again for the full game? No.
- There is no such strict definition of an EA. An EA is can you play early? Yes! Then it is an EA.

What i believe is: You are sad and frustrated by the expectation you had with this EA, but remember this: No one forced you to invest yourself in this EA and what was in this EA was written for more than 2 years in the store page.
For two years you could already know that this will be an unfinished ACT1.

So "is this really EA tho?" Yes it is.
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Jon Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by Marmottty:
I always be careful with this kind of OP. I've seen that during the last years each time the theme was like that it was to start a fight.
But here a genuinely answer:
- If you had to pay for the full game then it would not be an EA. Do you have to pay again for the full game? No.
- There is no such strict definition of an EA. An EA is can you play early? Yes! Then it is an EA.

What i believe is: You are sad and frustrated by the expectation you had with this EA, but remember this: No one forced you to invest yourself in this EA and what was in this EA was written for more than 2 years in the store page.
For two years you could already know that this will be an unfinished ACT1.

So "is this really EA tho?" Yes it is.
In all seriousness, its not what EA was intended as, it was introduced to financially help indie companies make their games come true.

Not for AAA corporations to use as means for financial stability.

There is literally no other EA game that used the system this way. That being said don't hate the player hate the game
Last edited by Jon; Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:36am
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Lord Adorable Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:33am 
Yes. It's Early Access.
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Lunduke is the Trump of tech Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:35am 
Originally posted by Lord Adorable:
Yes. It's Early Access.
but is it really tho?
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Marmottty Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:38am 
Originally posted by Jon:
In all seriousness, its not was EA intended as, it was introduced to financially help indie companies make their games come true.
I agree a little on the fact that they didn't need the financial help. Their previous game was a success, they got WotC behind them, i don't see them in a need of financial resources.
I believe they did that because they wanted to get the feedback early, maybe they could have set the game free and collect even more feedback?

The thing is they didn't do that, they made the game for their fans in a way that their fans knew they would. There is certainly flaw in that.
But still, the definition is the same: this is an EA. A very limited one but it is.
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Lunduke is the Trump of tech Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:40am 
Originally posted by Marmottty:
But still, the definition is the same: this is an EA. A very limited one but it is.
So it's an EA of a demo.
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dulany67 Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by Jon:

In all seriousness, its not what EA was intended as, it was introduced to financially help indie companies make their games come true.

Not for AAA corporations to use as means for financial stability.

There is literally no other EA game that used the system this way. That being said don't hate the player hate the game
I think that you will find that Larian is actually more in compliance with what was intended for EA, if you read some of the documents steam provides for Devs.

Whether or not the full game is released into EA is not covered. Personally, I applaud them preserving some of the excitement and surprise.
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Maitrepof Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:45am 
Well technically early access mean you can play the game before release, the only thing that could go against the definition in this case is that we don't have the last version.

A demo work too since it's be an exemple of what the game will be at release. But most demo are suppose to be free.

Might be an early demo then ?
Last edited by Maitrepof; Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:46am
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Marmottty Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:
Originally posted by Marmottty:
But still, the definition is the same: this is an EA. A very limited one but it is.
So it's an EA of a demo.
If in August a demo is released instead of the full game it would be. Let's wait this day to finish the discussion then.
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Marmottty Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by Maitrepof:
Well technically early access mean you can play the game before release, the only thing that could go against the definition in this case is that we don't have the last version.

A demo work too since it's be an exemple of what the game will be at release.
+1
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Lord Adorable Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:49am 
Originally posted by Pan Darius Kairos:
Originally posted by Lord Adorable:
Yes. It's Early Access.
but is it really tho?
Yes. It really is. I know this because I have seen a ton of Early Access games before that went through a similar process.
Last edited by Lord Adorable; Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:50am
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Snow Apr 21, 2023 @ 3:59am 
Is this subtility worth creating a thread?
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Maitrepof Apr 21, 2023 @ 4:28am 
Well we got a lot of time to kill waiting for release so might as well feed the troll :)
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Suralle Apr 21, 2023 @ 5:23am 
EA of a demo? I could find no fault in your logic. Definitely nice work though. Glad I bought in.
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