Is the WotC removal of half-races going to affect BG3?

[Ninjamestari]

topic. Are we going to lose horcs and helves and characters like Jaheira and Shadowheart?

[Dragon Master]

No.

It's only going to be a thing in the PHB that comes out next year for D&D 5E, not to be confused with D&D 5E that came out in 2014, which BG3 is based off of.

[Yojo0o]

This is going to be a thing now, isn't it?

No, half-races weren't removed. Half Elves and Half Orcs aren't going to be published race options in the OneDnD PHB next year. All half-race combinations are entirely in the game, on the table, and legal to use.

Please be aware that it is popular and profitable for unscrupulous internet journalists to blow stuff like this far wider than is appropriate, and feel free to actually read the information released by WotC instead of watching youtube commentators extrapolating and presenting their own opinions as factual.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

WotC didn't remove half breeds, that's misinformation.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Stop watching Faux Neus.

[Lord Adorable]

WoTC have not removed half-races.
People need to stop buying into the rage-bait misinformation campaign.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Lord Adorable:

WoTC have not removed half-races.
People need to stop buying into the rage-bait misinformation campaign.

It's the new "Disney insiders leak removal of Brie Larson from the MCU".

If it gets clicks, who cares if it's real?

[Starwight/ttv]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

WotC didn't remove half breeds, that's misinformation.

Yeah, only by technicality. Mechanically you pick one parent race, and that is the race you play as, that is what the mechanics are based on. You essentially get to say "Oh, I know I am PLAYING a half elf, but um. I guess...I'll play a human with pointy ears. And all human traits. Since the game doesn't give me options."

That is their "choice." It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

[Yojo0o]

Originally posted by Starwight/ttv:

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

WotC didn't remove half breeds, that's misinformation.

Yeah, only by technicality. Mechanically you pick one parent race, and that is the race you play as, that is what the mechanics are based on. You essentially get to say "Oh, I know I am PLAYING a half elf, but um. I guess...I'll play a human with pointy ears. And all human traits. Since the game doesn't give me options."

That is their "choice." It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

Half-Elves and Half-Orcs aren't going anywhere. They're still in the game, they're still on DnD Beyond. They're just not getting published in the new PHB next year.

Neither are Artificers, but nobody is crying about "WotC removing Artificers".

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

WotC didn't remove half breeds, that's misinformation.

All mechanics for being a half-race is being removed though, so there is no difference between being a half-whatever and a full whatever.

[Dragon Master]

“Frankly, we are not comfortable, and haven’t been for years with any of the options that start with ‘half’…The half construction is inherently racist so we simply aren’t going to include it in the new Player’s Handbook,”

- Jeremy Crawford at the D&D content creator summit.

[Cirrus]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

WotC didn't remove half breeds, that's misinformation.

All mechanics for being a half-race is being removed though, so there is no difference between being a half-whatever and a full whatever.

That is again pure garbage. 2014 phb is compatible and can be found still in all official sources. All mechanics are available.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Cirrus:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

All mechanics for being a half-race is being removed though, so there is no difference between being a half-whatever and a full whatever.

That is again pure garbage. 2014 phb is compatible and can be found still in all official sources. All mechanics are available.

The 2014 PHB, yes, the 2024 PHB's character creator works like this, you choose ANY two races to be your parent, choose one to have your racial mechanics coming from, and the appearance of the other.....and that's it.

The upcoming PHB's character creator is removing all mechanics for what makes a half-race a half-race.

They say that the 2014 PHB characters can still work with the new system coming out, but we'll have to wait and see if that is true and not just the corporation saying what they think the customers want to hear.

[wtiger27]

Well, as long as my Wood Elf can have a beard, I will be happy.

[Hobocop]

As maligned as 4e is, the earlier stuff didn't become completely irrelevant when the Essentials set came out. I expect this to be very much in the same vein on that front.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

As maligned as 4e is, the earlier stuff didn't become completely irrelevant when the Essentials set came out. I expect this to be very much in the same vein on that front.

We'll just have to wait and see.

As it stands right now, WotC is not getting the benefit of the doubt from me. They've made too many questionable decisions with outright stated reasons for the WHY they are making them I find to be outright stupid.

They'd be a lot better off if they would just stop talking, create the rules and the tools for players to make their games with and then back off.