"evil" run should get warning for new players

[45ay3asdasd]

like how larian suggested new players to not do dark urge, i think there should be a warning for those doing an "evil" run

evil run being supporting the goblins in act 1, supporting the moonrise absolute in act 2, Supporting the emperor against the Gith, etc

not even counting the unique questlines, doing an evil run locks you out of 5 companions and 9 unique romances -

Companions you lose - Wyl, Karlach, jaheera, minsc, halsin
Romances you lose - Wyl, Karlach, minsc, shadowheart (poly), halsin, Mizora, Viconia

meanwhile if you go 'evil' you lose all of the above and your only compensation is a chance to get minthara but ONLY if you switch sides in act 2 which goes against the 'evil' playthrough, if you stick to evil play you dont even get her.

therefore i think there should be a warning that this type of playthrough is not suggested for first time plays, because if this is the only run people end up doing in bg3 before moving on to other games they'll think the game is a lot more boring than it could have been

[Ackranome]

You don't have to be evil as dark urge.

[Konomi☆Nanasaki]

Originally posted by Fauxes:

Supporting the emperor against the Gith

Why would you even include that for evil?

[45ay3asdasd]

Originally posted by Konomi☆Nanasaki:

Originally posted by Fauxes:

Supporting the emperor against the Gith

Why would you even include that for evil?

dont want to spoil it for you but the Emperor is the bad guy in this game, so supporting him is part of the evil play

[Metallicus]

I also lost Gale as he decided to leave as well. It is not as much fun to play evil and only gain Minthara and lose everyone else. Plus, for me being evil is really hard as I prefer either a good or neutral playthrough to being evil.

[Solvem Probler]

One side is obviously unfinished.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

I don't think the game is much more boring than it could be, it's just that they took away a few dozen quests from me and offered nothing in return, even Minthara's story was cut

[Eviltoy]

Originally posted by Fauxes:

Originally posted by Konomi☆Nanasaki:

Why would you even include that for evil?

dont want to spoil it for you but the Emperor is the bad guy in this game, so supporting him is part of the evil play

This game have 1700 endings. Will see. My game i have not finish. But for me i must help the emperor because only he protect me from the evil. I think it have much to do with what you decide before. The game can be much different

[Ackranome]

Originally posted by Eviltoy:

Originally posted by Fauxes:

dont want to spoil it for you but the Emperor is the bad guy in this game, so supporting him is part of the evil play

This game have 1700 endings. Will see. My game i have not finish. But for me i must help the emperor because only he protect me from the evil. I think it have much to do with what you decide before. The game can be much different

It has like 5.

[balmung]

My first Playthrough was evil, i did all of the above and had Wyll, Jaheira and Minsc (also Boo) in my party. So your statement is false.
Also, a false statement is that the Emperor is a bad guy, he is no more evil than Giths themselves. If you'd explore the secret area with a dragon, you'd find out that Emperor was actually a good guy, or rather neutrally aligned. He is only guilty of accepting becoming an Illithid rather than unaliving himself, as everyone expects of those who are infected. Also, Emperor is *drum roll* Balduran who has built this city in the past. He is also the only reason why the Baldur's Gate didn't become enslaved by Elderbrain So i personally fail to see how the Emperor can be "evil".

[Nox]

Originally posted by Eviltoy:

Originally posted by Fauxes:

dont want to spoil it for you but the Emperor is the bad guy in this game, so supporting him is part of the evil play

This game have 1700 endings. Will see. My game i have not finish. But for me i must help the emperor because only he protect me from the evil. I think it have much to do with what you decide before. The game can be much different

These are not endings. Devs said themselves that these are permutations.

For example - ending where you destroy the brain is one ending, but the way what people do on the road there is a permutation.

You side with Emperor - permutation
You side Orpheus - permutation
Every different companion squad composition is another permutation.
Did you save or destroy the grove - another permutation etc.

[PaloG]

Originally posted by <balmung>:

Also, a false statement is that the Emperor is a bad guy, he is no more evil than Giths themselves. <spoiler> If you'd explore the secret area with a dragon, you'd find out that Emperor was actually a good guy, or rather neutrally aligned. He is only guilty of accepting becoming an Illithid rather than unaliving himself, as everyone expects of those who are infected. Also, Emperor is *drum roll* Balduran who has built this city in the past. He is also the only reason why the Baldur's Gate didn't become enslaved by Elderbrain </spoiler> So i personally fail to see how the Emperor can be "evil".

Emperor is 101% Evil. He's an immensely skilled manipulator and everything he says is either a lie or half-truth. The only person he cares for is himself. You only see that when you actively antagonize him and he reveals his true past showing you how he was controlling Stellmane and he asks you if you're glad he "refined" his methods and that all you are to him is a pawn that will do as told or you'll end up the same. Balduran's soul is long gone, the only thing that remains at this point are the memories he uses to manipulate you

[Zeel Ara]

Yes because dog forbid you should ever have to make a choice without knowing the consequences beforehand. I demand being treated like a drooling moron who can't think for himself. How dare you let me make my own choices and my own mistakes Larian?! I demand to be treated like a toddler!!!

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Fauxes:

"evil" run should get warning for new players
like how larian suggested new players to not do dark urge, i think there should be a warning for those doing an "evil" run

evil run being supporting the goblins in act 1, supporting the moonrise absolute in act 2, Supporting the emperor against the Gith, etc

not even counting the unique questlines, doing an evil run locks you out of 5 companions and 9 unique romances -

Companions you lose - Wyl, Karlach, jaheera, minsc, halsin
Romances you lose - Wyl, Karlach, minsc, shadowheart (poly), halsin, Mizora, Viconia

meanwhile if you go 'evil' you lose all of the above and your only compensation is a chance to get minthara but ONLY if you switch sides in act 2 which goes against the 'evil' playthrough, if you stick to evil play you dont even get her.

therefore i think there should be a warning that this type of playthrough is not suggested for first time plays, because if this is the only run people end up doing in bg3 before moving on to other games they'll think the game is a lot more boring than it could have been

With common sense you do not need warnings.
I mean, how important is it to you that a coffee cup from Xstore with freshly brewed coffee in it has written on it "careful content is hot" ???

[balmung]

Originally posted by PaloG:

Originally posted by <balmung>:

Also, a false statement is that the Emperor is a bad guy, he is no more evil than Giths themselves. <spoiler> If you'd explore the secret area with a dragon, you'd find out that Emperor was actually a good guy, or rather neutrally aligned. He is only guilty of accepting becoming an Illithid rather than unaliving himself, as everyone expects of those who are infected. Also, Emperor is *drum roll* Balduran who has built this city in the past. He is also the only reason why the Baldur's Gate didn't become enslaved by Elderbrain </spoiler> So i personally fail to see how the Emperor can be "evil".

Emperor is 101% Evil. He's an immensely skilled manipulator and everything he says is either a lie or half-truth. The only person he cares for is himself. You only see that when you actively antagonize him and he reveals his true past showing you how he was controlling Stellmane and he asks you if you're glad he "refined" his methods and that all you are to him is a pawn that will do as told or you'll end up the same

So it appears that bastard convinced me :D
I tried to piss him off a couple of times but he never lost his composure.
But to be fair, isn't the main character a "pawn" , to some extent, for everyone in this story?

[Nox]

Originally posted by Ratley:

Yes because dog forbid you should ever have to make a choice without knowing the consequences beforehand. I demand being treated like a drooling moron who can't think for himself. How dare you let me make my own choices and my own mistakes Larian?! I demand to be treated like a toddler!!!

I think the bigger issue here is, that evil playthrough does not have enough content to make up for what you lose.

You can't even truly side with the chosen three (which I kind of hoped would be possible).