Three Quests Failed???

[GreatEagle]

I found Nightsong and freed her and then three of my not completed quests became complete as failed quests (Search the Cellar, Rescue Wulbren, and Rescue the Tieflings). What I don't understand is that I was going to unlock the Ancient Tomb and I thought I could only do that in Baulders Gate but it now says "The book is lost" but I still have the book in my inventory. It was also my understanding that I had to complete the towers quests before I could even go to Baulders Gate and I needed to free Nightsong in order to kill Ketheric Thorm who is also in the towers. As for the other two I don't understand why they became complete as a failed quest as I still have to go to the towers where those quests takes me anyway. Was I supposed to go to the towers before I freed Nightsong?
The towers is part of the main questline and I like doing all my side quests first before continuing onto the main quests because in every game I have ever played that is like this it was the main quests that moved the story forward and not the side quests. It seems that this game has one quest that credits a side quest and a main quest at the same time which I find frustrating because I don't like failing quests.

[Cat]

Freeing Nightsong (going into the domain of Shar) progresses the world state to the end of act 2, this means the tieflings are most likely all been executed and the gnomes too. I can't speak for the cellar since that quest hasn't failed for me, but maybe it's related to some of the now deceased NPCs.

[Action Man]

Before you take a dip in that pool, you're given a warning that progressing further may lock out some quests. If you ignored that warning, that's on you.

Always a good idea to make saves to fallback on.

[Non-binary Tiddies]

You were supposed to go to the tower before releasing Nightsong. Freeing her is the catalyst to end the act entirely and closes off any remaining side quests.

[Ellie]

Once Nightsong is freed, depending on your choices beforehand, the tower turns into a battlefield, preventing you from completing any lingering quests there.

[Glyph]

Respect that warning at the door to the Shadowfell next time!

[FoxFox]

Yeah, that wasn't clear to me either (the game does warn you that some quests may fail or something) before you enter the Nightsong place, but I figured I was going to be able to rescue those prisoners afterwards. But you can't.

As for the Tome, I just looked it up. Apparently you need to find a reference to some ancient codex that can unlock the tome before you do the Nightsong bit. If you don't find this clue, you will not know what to look for in Baldur's Gate and as a consequence you will fail the quest.

[Hawke]

Freeing the Nightsong is the main quest that was supposed to take place after you have infiltrated the Moonrise Towers. The developers' logic might not be obvious, but there was a warning before proceeding into the pool.

[Silyon]

Wulbren and the kidnapped Tieflings aren't in Baldur's Gate, the game's pretty clear about them being held captive in Moonrise Towers. By doing the events involving Nightsong, it progresses the gamestate of Moonrise to the version that involves a large-scale fight with whatever NPC's are still alive there. The Prison in the basement of Moonrise is also updated, and I believe you can find the bodies of the prisoners there if you didn't free them first.

This is why the doorway just before Nightsong automatically warns you that events will progress and incomplete quests may become unavailable. It's just like trying to move into the Mountian Pass before dealing with the Goblins in Act 1. You are fine to go anywhere you like until you hit one of those specific doors, which are points of no return.

[CorwynCorey]

When it warns that you will lock yourself out of some quests, did you think that it magically wont apply to you for some reason?
It flat out says it. It even goes so far as to do a popup. And even with a warning like that, you didn't even save first?

Hello, rodeo bull? It's my first ride, and I was hoping you'd hold my hand...

[FoxFox]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Wulbren and the kidnapped Tieflings aren't in Baldur's Gate,

OP meant the Ancient Tome quest there, which does indeed point you to Baldur's Gate. I accidentally unlocked the clue before I did the Nightsong, but apparently you will fail this quest if you don't find the clue before doing Nightsong.

[GreatEagle]

Originally posted by CorwynCorey:

When it warns that you will lock yourself out of some quests, did you think that it magically wont apply to you for some reason?
It flat out says it. It even goes so far as to do a popup. And even with a warning like that, you didn't even save first?

Hello, rodeo bull? It's my first ride, and I was hoping you'd hold my hand...

First of all I did make a save and was debating on loading it or not. Second I didn't think the warning included the Moonrise Towers quests so that is why I went through with it.

[Hawke]

I would recommend to reload. There is a lot to do in the Towers.

[FoxFox]

Originally posted by GreatEagle:

Originally posted by CorwynCorey:

When it warns that you will lock yourself out of some quests, did you think that it magically wont apply to you for some reason?
It flat out says it. It even goes so far as to do a popup. And even with a warning like that, you didn't even save first?

Hello, rodeo bull? It's my first ride, and I was hoping you'd hold my hand...

First of all I did make a save and was debating on loading it or not. Second I didn't think the warning included the Moonrise Towers quests so that is why I went through with it.

I made the same mistake, because it seemed to make sense to free the prisoners after taking out Ketheric. There is no logical reason why you wouldn't be able to do that - i.e. no logical reason why that's impossible that the game actually tells you about.

It does tell you that you may fail some quests, but clearly you will not fail all quests and you can't really know which ones need to be finished before you do the Nightsong.

[GreatEagle]

Originally posted by Hawke:

I would recommend to reload. There is a lot to do in the Towers.

Yes I will be doing that. I was just avoiding it before as I thought I would be meeting up with all the bosses there and ending act 2 too soon. Thank you though.

[GreatEagle]

Originally posted by FoxFox:

Originally posted by GreatEagle:

First of all I did make a save and was debating on loading it or not. Second I didn't think the warning included the Moonrise Towers quests so that is why I went through with it.

I made the same mistake, because it seemed to make sense to free the prisoners after taking out Ketheric. There is no logical reason why you wouldn't be able to do that - i.e. no logical reason why that's impossible that the game actually tells you about.

It does tell you that you may fail some quests, but clearly you will not fail all quests and you can't really know which ones need to be finished before you do the Nightsong.

Yes there are I few things in this game that are not clear. I guess I just need to avoid the areas that warn me until I have everything done. Even if I have to go online and look up what needs to be done. Thank you.