Star field DESTROYED BG3.

[Amogus]

let's be honest here, Starfield absolute DOMINATE BG3, all the people i know a month ago was on the fence about BG3, bought starfield without hesitations, This is like Fallguys to Among us era. Remember when Fall guys was everyone for like a single month and then among us killed it? This is the same thing.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Fallout 76 is not an RPG, it is a survival MMO
It is actually a decent Survival mmo (I am not too much into it) but people expected it to be an aRPG MMO

What? FO76 litterally is an rpg. A setting does not make a game 'survival MMO' cause its not an MMO at all. Where's the MMO part? You're not playing with more then 100 people on a single server XD

You might not like that but it is. As you level you unlock more, you get stronger, better armor, are able to craft more, able to make different builds.

Cant be said about SF which litterally unlocks everything via a perk system.

It is a Survival MMO
You go into a open world, you farm resources (together or alone, albeit the entire gameplay is focused around group play) and then you build bases and get more resources, the quest follow the Survival MMO path, its "do this to get this" there is no player agency or choices involved

Its coupled around PVE experiences as well and random events.

There is no real RPG elements in the game.


Think about minecraft.. if ARK or RUST... these are the same.. they are also Survival MMO´s (albeit Minecraft can be perfectly well played alone and has creative asepcts ofc)

My point here is, that it is not an RPG and never have been, it was never the point of it either.. the point of it was for you to survive a sandbox with friends and father resources.

It has more RPG elements than Starfield ofc.. Starfield basically have none.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

It is a Survival MMO
You go into a open world, you farm resources (together or alone, albeit the entire gameplay is focused around group play) and then you build bases and get more resources, the quest follow the Survival MMO path, its "do this to get this" there is no player agency or choices involved

Are we playing the same game? Cause there's litteral options to play the whole game solo, that includes end game content.

Ark is still RPG because it has progressive leveling system.

I have no idea about Rust. I dont play that game.


And you only build one singulair base in FO76.

[AdahnGorion]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

It is a Survival MMO
You go into a open world, you farm resources (together or alone, albeit the entire gameplay is focused around group play) and then you build bases and get more resources, the quest follow the Survival MMO path, its "do this to get this" there is no player agency or choices involved

Are we playing the same game? Cause there's litteral options to play the whole game solo, that includes end game content.

Ark is still RPG because it has progressive leveling system.

I have no idea about Rust. I dont play that game.


And you only build one singulair base in FO76.

We will never reach an agreement so lets stop the debate.
We don´t define what an RPG is the same, so its moot to keep beating the dead sheep.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Are we playing the same game? Cause there's litteral options to play the whole game solo, that includes end game content.

Ark is still RPG because it has progressive leveling system.

I have no idea about Rust. I dont play that game.


And you only build one singulair base in FO76.

We will never reach an agreement so lets stop the debate.
We don´t define what an RPG is the same, so its moot to keep beating the dead sheep.

Etxactly.

We dont.

But this does:


Levels letting a player improve the character and earn more points as they progress.
Statistics showing how many points a player has earned and their position vis-à-vis other players.
A combat system that, among other elements, lets players choose their actions and abilities.
Equipment, such as armor and weapons, that make players' characters stronger.
Elements that let players interact with other players and with the gaming environment, such as traps, doors, etc.
Character classes that each player can select, such as warrior, wizard, princess, etc.

By your standard 'monster hunter' aint an rpg, yet it is, because 'classes' are in that game that benefit from statistical points in set skills.

FO is a build your own class game.

So is Ark because your gameplay is very limited to your dino classes.

[Mobiusx2]

They must still use leaded gasoline where you are from.

[Alkpaz]

Super Mario World DESTROYED BG3. I mean they introduced Yoshi! YOSHI! :P
Sarcasm aside, BG3 is a completely different genre than Starfield. It's like saying Crusader Kings 2 is like Final Fantasy XIII.

[Phero]

Let's face it, they don't know how to make good games. The people who made games such as Morrowind don't work there anymore. It's all suits and numbers now.

[SoundsOfNight]

Keep smoking that good good

[Derah]

That's a fancy post you got there, it'd be almost a shame someone ruined it with actual evidence to the contrary.

As far as Steam DB goes:

Baldur's Gate 3: 347,830 players right now, 458,754 players over the last 24 hours, 875,343 highest player count ever.

Starfield: 234,928 players right now, 313,993 players over the last 24 hours, 313,993 all time peak.

Proof: BG3's steam stats: https://steamdb.info/app/1086940/charts/

Starfield's Steam Stats: https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/charts/

So.......... that's a no. You're wrong. You're factually, demonstrably wrong.

[Bramhar]

Old trolls would try to play on people nerves. I actually like the new ones. Seems like king's clowns. ehehehehehe

[Huhruhkayn]

Facts would suggest otherwise... Also my entire friends list are still on BG3.... No one has even bought Starfield yet because we all know what a shallow joke of a game it is XD

[Andomil]

Originally posted by WAFFLE:

let's be honest here, Starfield absolute DOMINATE BG3, all the people i know a month ago was on the fence about BG3, bought starfield without hesitations, This is like Fallguys to Among us era. Remember when Fall guys was everyone for like a single month and then among us killed it? This is the same thing.

14.43...10.09.2023

BG3: 361,109
SF: 242,270

lol

[Phero]

Starfield players: Sadge

[Severance]

Starfield is so bad, just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ generic game boring after 30 hours. With garbo old mechanics and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ optimization. 1/10 bait.

[Selunevis]

Different genre, so idk why are you bringing that here. I do know that the media would say they are both RPG, but that´s false.

1. Starfield is a shooter (quite bland, tbh) with some RPG elements. IF you want to see a Bethesda RPG, you have to go back to Fallout New Vegas / Oblivion.
2. Baldurs Gate 3 is indeed a RPG, but since it´s isometric, comparing it with Starfield is like comparing cats and dogs: They are both animals, and usually tamed. End.

AND that comes from someone who owns both of the games (EA for years in BG3 and pre-order for Starfield) and enjoy both (so you can´t play the "xxx fanboy" card).