Baldur's Gate 3

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srfrogg23 Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:15pm
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Has the "Strong-Woman" trope run its course?
Most of the warriors and melee characters are females while the spell casters and rogues are males. Ok, so most of the entertainment industry for male-oriented products these days has jumped on that bandwagon under the false pretense that they're doing something "new" and "different", or whatever. It's fine, I bought the game anyway and I'm enjoying it, but am I really the only one whose finding this trend to be pretty tiresome?

Why is the idea of women dying on the front-lines of combat so popular in today's entertainment industry? What kind of school did the writers go to where all of the jocks in their school were girls and the guys just sat around in the background? In what world are women the most brutal and violent gender while males are the passive intellectuals?

I personally don't find the "warrior woman" archetype to be intimidating like I would expect an axe-wielding barbarian or heavily armored knight to be. Take Karlach for example. Super bubbly. Pretty nice chick. I'd have a few beers with her. But, I just don't see her as being a "badass". She seems more like a Pick Me girl than anything else, really. Lae'zel seems worse. Scrawny. Generally cranky, but not particularly scary, either.

I think Orin might be the only female character in the game that I legitimately find intimidating. Not because she's brutishly strong, but because she's got that psycho-Harley Quinn thing going. She's a few sandwiches short of a picnic, if you know what I mean.

So, of course, melee combat, the thing that guys have historically been thrown on the frontlines to do is now reserved for women, so instead the males now sneak around or fling spells from the back while women half their size are expected to do all the fighting. I know it's a fantasy world, but there's really only so much I can do to suspend disbelief. What kinds of guys would be like, "hey you with the ovaries, yeah, you go first and get hit in the face with an axe while I hide behind you".

All in all, I think it would be refreshing to see the entertainment industry create characters and scenarios that are more reflective of the world we live in today.
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Snail.com Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:22pm 
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Deitrix Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:23pm 
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You can make a gnome barbarian who uses a massive sledgehammer to kill monsters ten times his size, but a woman warrior? MUH GAWD! MUH IMMERSION! THE WOKES HAVE GONE TOO FAR!
Pan Darius Cassandra (Banned) Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:23pm 
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You can respec everyone to be any class you want.
Pan Darius Cassandra (Banned) Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
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All in all, I think it would be refreshing to see the entertainment industry create characters and scenarios that are more reflective of the world we live in today.

That's literally not what fantasy is.
Xanikk Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
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I honestly don't think it's worth complaining about. Plenty of video game rpgs have strong male warriors still at least from the ones I play. I just have seen a diversifying of female roles more recently and I don't see a problem with it.
Dank Sidious Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
Never
srfrogg23 Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Deitrix:
You can make a gnome barbarian who uses a massive sledgehammer to kill monsters ten times his size, but a woman warrior? MUH GAWD! MUH IMMERSION! THE WOKES HAVE GONE TOO FAR!

The what? What's a "wokes"?
MOK Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
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There are so many weird-guy posts in this forum. Usually I like watching game discussions, crunching on the mechanics and talking about character interactions and whatnot. But here it's just.... weird guy posts. Constantly.
Big Mad Wolf Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
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You could also say, women do dumb brute and support stuff, while men do the smart and cunning stuff.

Equally stupid take :)
No, it's hilarious
Tingly Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:25pm 
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It does not resemble the high school I went to in Faerun, for sure.
JD Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:25pm 
Yeah, long ago. At least of the Mary Sue variety which is all they pump out these days.
Dank Sidious Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:25pm 
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Originally posted by srfrogg23:
Originally posted by Deitrix:
You can make a gnome barbarian who uses a massive sledgehammer to kill monsters ten times his size, but a woman warrior? MUH GAWD! MUH IMMERSION! THE WOKES HAVE GONE TOO FAR!

The what? What's a "wokes"?

The worst nightmare of a true gamer.
srfrogg23 Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by Dank Sidious:
Originally posted by srfrogg23:

The what? What's a "wokes"?

The worst nightmare of a true gamer.

Lol, I must not be a true gamer, then. I have no idea what that is.
Cyroy Sep 7, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
The tomgirl trope is ancient, have you been living under a rock?
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