Paladin protection aura tad bit OP ?

[shogunsmurf]

So 20 Cha is pretty feasible at lvl 4 already if you take +2 cha and +1 cha from Ethel early game with 17 on creation, giving you a whooping +5 AC and +5 to all saving throws, not just for yourself, but everyone 5m near you.

Maybe it should just be a flat +2 AC and to saves.

[Hex]

Sure

Also, remove action surge from Fighter and also Reckless attack from Barb.

[Rex is back, baby!]

Originally posted by shogunsmurf:

So 20 Cha is pretty feasible at lvl 4 already if you take +2 cha and +1 cha from Ethel early game with 17 on creation, giving you a whooping +5 AC and +5 to all saving throws, not just for yourself, but everyone 5m near you.

Maybe it should just be a flat +2 AC and to saves.

DnD 5e is all about the power fantasy. EVERY class in 5e is OP.

[Gingermonkey]

Originally posted by Hex:

Sure

Also, remove action surge from Fighter and also Reckless attack from Barb.

And metamagic from sorcerers! Way too op

[Hex]

Originally posted by RMS_Gingermonkey:

Originally posted by Hex:

Sure

Also, remove action surge from Fighter and also Reckless attack from Barb.

And metamagic from sorcerers! Way too op

No, no twincast is fien

[shogunsmurf]

Ye is that making you literally immune to attacks at lvl 4 ? xD because 27 AC here while using 2h with +11 saves minium on everything at lvl 6. At this point only nat 20 hit me.

[lockedmind]

Originally posted by shogunsmurf:

So 20 Cha is pretty feasible at lvl 4 already if you take +2 cha and +1 cha from Ethel early game with 17 on creation, giving you a whooping +5 AC and +5 to all saving throws, not just for yourself, but everyone 5m near you.

Maybe it should just be a flat +2 AC and to saves.

Except protection aura doesn't buff AC, only saves.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

Fun fact you can actually get charisma to 24, so +7 to all saves in an area.
Then if you go a few levels and grab bladelock you get to use it for attacks and damage.
If you go 7 in oathbreaker it gets added to damage again for a static +14.
Use the giant slayer greatsword and you get strength bonus added to it too.

Currently my Paladin/warlock is swinging with a combined minimum damage of +32

But yes the aura is REALLY good but its also like one of the major hallmarks of a paladin in 5e. The range on the aura is also really small and in most fights you don't want to be that close.

[Veolfen]

It gives bonus to saving throws but no AC no ?

[zenebatos1]

Originally posted by RMS_Gingermonkey:

Originally posted by Hex:

Sure

Also, remove action surge from Fighter and also Reckless attack from Barb.

And metamagic from sorcerers! Way too op

You laugh, but i genuinly knew someone who was Banned from an Online Discord campaign, cause and i Quote "The DM though that my lvl2 RANGER character being able to cast Hunter's mark for a BA and then deal 1d8+DEX +1D6 a turn was "WAY TOO OP" and unbalanced"...

Some people have weird understanding on how this game works...

[SoundsOfNight]

Ethel at lvl 4? Dayum son.

[Diomedes]

Originally posted by shogunsmurf:

So 20 Cha is pretty feasible at lvl 4 already if you take +2 cha and +1 cha from Ethel early game with 17 on creation, giving you a whooping +5 AC and +5 to all saving throws, not just for yourself, but everyone 5m near you.

Maybe it should just be a flat +2 AC and to saves.

mmm, since when does it give +5 to ac? It should only be to saves right? And its a small area effect.

[zenebatos1]

Originally posted by shogunsmurf:

So 20 Cha is pretty feasible at lvl 4 already if you take +2 cha and +1 cha from Ethel early game with 17 on creation, giving you a whooping +5 AC and +5 to all saving throws, not just for yourself, but everyone 5m near you.

Maybe it should just be a flat +2 AC and to saves.

...Stop smoking crack really...

Aura of Devotion gives +CHA to SAVES, not AC.

I have no clue where you ge tthat you get a +CHA to AC...

[Veolfen]

The guy probably moded his game which boosted the classes (like paladin aura giving AC) and now complains about it lol

[Dreepa]

Char from Ethel?
Plz explain!

[Gingermonkey]

Originally posted by Dreepa:

Char from Ethel?
Plz explain!

If you take her deal to leave her alone after fighting her, you get a consumable that can increase a stat by one point