Should pushing a polymorphed creature that could otherwise fly off a cliff kill it?

[Oggab0gga]

I polymorphed a beholder. I then tried to throw it off a cliff (without damaging it) using telekenesis. But instead, the polymorph spell was broken and no damage done. Is this intended? Or is the "flying" tag not properly removed when polymorphed?

[Agony_Aunt]

Its a good question. If the original creature used wings to fly and the new form doesn't, then physical flying is out of the question.

But what about magical flying i hear you ask!

Good question! The beholder in question doesn't need wings, it uses magic in some way to fly.

Well, according to the spell:

> The creature is limited in the actions it can perform by the nature of its new form, and it can't speak, cast spells, or take any other action that requires hands or speech.

Its worth noting here the "by the nature of its new form" part. If the new can't fly, magical or otherwise, its not in its nature to fly, so RAW would indicate that no, you can't fly.

Whether RAI would disagree.... i leave that open to debate.

[RhodosGuard]

Polymorph is a Concentration spell, Telekinesis is a concentration spell.
Casting Telekinesis breaks the concentration on Polymorph.

[Powercrank]

bruh my mc can fly and still takes fall damage when pushed

[Baphled]

Was it the same character using both spells at different times, or the same character? They're both concentration spells, so casting telekinesis with the same character that cast polymorph would break the polymorph.

[FoxFox]

When in doubt the DM makes the call. Or it's a bug...

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by Baphled:

Was it the same character using both spells at different times, or the same character? They're both concentration spells, so casting telekinesis with the same character that cast polymorph would break the polymorph.

We do have a party of 4 though.

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by FoxFox:

When in doubt the DM makes the call. Or it's a bug...

Wise words, except in the case of CRPGs, the code is the DM, and she's a ♥♥♥♥♥.

[Ackranome]

So, I guess I am confused.

Does a Beholder Fly or does it float?

I would think it floats X amount of feet off the ground but maybe I am wrong.

If there is no surface and it floats shouldn't it fall into the chasm?

[FoxFox]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Originally posted by FoxFox:

When in doubt the DM makes the call. Or it's a bug...

Wise words, except in the case of CRPGs, the code is the DM, and she's a ♥♥♥♥♥.

well that was my point.

[Oggab0gga]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Polymorph is a Concentration spell, Telekinesis is a concentration spell.
Casting Telekinesis breaks the concentration on Polymorph.

yes, but these were different casters