Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Grumpy Sep 5, 2023 @ 2:55pm
Why are we the leader of this little group ?
Of course i'm not talking about the playability of the game, since it's obligatory to be the leader in that kind of RPG.

What i'm wondering if it's conceivable from the point of view of our companions?

They don't know us at all and even if we get the artefact later (so it became apparent they need to stay close to us) it doesn't explain why they would follow us.

I was playing a ranger, kinda loner guy in the woods and now i've got people following me and judging my decisions.

How do you explain it ,roleplay wise, for your own adventure?
Originally posted by victorvnv:
Because the first thing you do when you meet them is help them, this making them like you most

First encounter with Shadowheart: she is trapped, you don’t have to help her but you do and save her life . She has no business trying to be the leader there

Laezel: she is an alien in this world , she knows nothing about it so she trying to lead when she knows nothing of logistics makes nonsense, she is dominant in what she wants to be done but knows that she isn’t in a position to lead the group, Shadowheart would just leave on the spot as she disagreed with her from start

Gale: once again you help him from being trapped forever the first thing you do so he trusts you more than the rest

Astarion is just not suited to be a leader, he is untrustworthy and would never be trusted by anyone in the group to lead

Wyll would actually be a good leader but by the time he meets you you are already in a group , have a camp and are the de facto leader there. Plus he is a demon pawn and has a designated mission so he doesn’t have much free will due to his contract. And he needs you at that point more than you need him as once again you already have a group going

Karlach same as Wyll , she is a soldier not a leader , all she knows is to follow orders, and you help vouch for her when Wyll wants to kill her

I mean logically the PC is the best choise to lead
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Orion Invictus Sep 5, 2023 @ 3:28pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy:
Originally posted by Orion Invictus:
Because I'm the sexiest in the group. If you're gonna stare at an ass all day, might as well be a nice one.

I'm pretty sure Gale would go for any ass, he has free candy in his magcial boat.
Doesn't mean mine isn't the nicest.
TuberTugger Sep 5, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
You can be one of the origin characters. I'm currently in a Wyll run. No original custom character.

It's interesting seeing different dialogues happen because of it too. You even get to meet another Gith companion if you play as Lae'zel
Pixel_Kitsune Sep 5, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Because whoever you control tends to be assertive and move forward.

Remember, Tav/DUrge is leader if you pick then, but choosing any inherent origin changes that up.
Hex Sep 5, 2023 @ 3:39pm 
You're not. You can change the "leader" at any time by selecting a different character and turning off the "default to avatar" from options.
Grumpy Sep 5, 2023 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by Hex:
You're not. You can change the "leader" at any time by selecting a different character and turning off the "default to avatar" from options.

I understand that but i was asking about it goes roleplay wise and i marked the answer up top as the best explanation i got.
magattatou Sep 5, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
Good post by victorvnv, and also:

At a certain, fairly early point in the game, the mysterious artifact chooses you as its main carrier and everyone in the group finds out its the only thing keeping them from turning into an illithid.

They're going to want to hang around you whether they like you or not... to a point, I guess. Unless you do something truly terrible in their eyes.
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Kafik Sep 5, 2023 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy:
Originally posted by Hobocop:
It's literally explained as shared circumstance. You're all potentially about to die horribly from tentacles exploding from your face from within, so best to work together to seek out a method to prevent that.

I get that, the question is more about why we are the de facto leader.

I actually would enjoy the idea of being a simple member where your group need to consert themselves before taking a decision and then when you're leaving camp you play as the member the group elected until the next big decision.

Of course it's way too complicated to be in a game but i like the concept.
Someone always winds up taking charge. However you can not be the leader most of the time by not leading your party with your character, let a companion speak first. Make conversation choices that show you're not the leader too.
bbii Sep 5, 2023 @ 4:47pm 
Because you are the pov character. Even if you play as an Origin character,
It would be boring if you were not the leader and an NPC was always telling you what to do. Could not be free-roaming as if you went another way the leader would say no..
Grumpy Sep 5, 2023 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by Kfuk:
Originally posted by Grumpy:

I get that, the question is more about why we are the de facto leader.

I actually would enjoy the idea of being a simple member where your group need to consert themselves before taking a decision and then when you're leaving camp you play as the member the group elected until the next big decision.

Of course it's way too complicated to be in a game but i like the concept.
Someone always winds up taking charge. However you can not be the leader most of the time by not leading your party with your character, let a companion speak first. Make conversation choices that show you're not the leader too.

Of course but it's kind of a workaround the situation and the dialogues would be a little weird no ?

It's the same feeling when one of your companions who stayed at camp when you did something is all jittery like he was there : " HAH his face when we...." No no Wyll you were playing with scratch and having a barbecue with Minsc, you filthy liar you.
Cutlass Jack Sep 5, 2023 @ 5:00pm 
I think its literally because the group starts with you. You collect everyone else as you go and invite them into the team.
This is a good question, exactly the kind a good role player asks. For me, the answer is two-fold... you are the one who goes out of their way to make sure their needs and concerns are addressed, very shortly after meeting them, before you even know them. That helps them value you as an asset to their survival and well-being. Second is a sort of social dynamic. Most of them are joining your group when it already has an established dynamic. It's sort of like the concept of inertia... because there already is a leader, it's harder to make someone else the new leader than it would have been to make that person the leader if they were simply there first without a pre-existing leader.
Deitrix Sep 5, 2023 @ 5:08pm 
I always assumed your tadpole was the most "dominant" one.
Originally posted by Grumpy:
Originally posted by Kfuk:
Someone always winds up taking charge. However you can not be the leader most of the time by not leading your party with your character, let a companion speak first. Make conversation choices that show you're not the leader too.

Of course but it's kind of a workaround the situation and the dialogues would be a little weird no ?

It's the same feeling when one of your companions who stayed at camp when you did something is all jittery like he was there : " HAH his face when we...." No no Wyll you were playing with scratch and having a barbecue with Minsc, you filthy liar you.
The implication is that your full party is traveling with you. The 4 member limit to your party is there as a game mechanic rather than a narrative one. This is why no matter where you camp, all of the members of your gang come with you, even the ones who weren't in the party.
Grumpy Sep 5, 2023 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:
This is a good question, exactly the kind a good role player asks. For me, the answer is two-fold... you are the one who goes out of their way to make sure their needs and concerns are addressed, very shortly after meeting them, before you even know them. That helps them value you as an asset to their survival and well-being. Second is a sort of social dynamic. Most of them are joining your group when it already has an established dynamic. It's sort of like the concept of inertia... because there already is a leader, it's harder to make someone else the new leader than it would have been to make that person the leader if they were simply there first without a pre-existing leader.

Does that mean that having shadow heart is enough (at least if you keep her of course) ?

Since she takes the role of a follower right off the bat if you help her in the ship.
Last edited by Grumpy; Sep 5, 2023 @ 5:11pm
Grumpy Sep 5, 2023 @ 5:10pm 
Originally posted by Deitrix:
I always assumed your tadpole was the most "dominant" one.

Are we measuring tadpoles now !? (/joke)
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