Imagine female Gale

[Elfie]

Just a thought. Lets call her Galina.

She (if we only alter appearance and gender, and keep all other traits/backstory of Gale intact):
1) Is a powerful witch
2) Is casual about relatshionship be it romance or frienship, also bi
3) Overall cheerful personality, + the usual Chaotic Neutral frolics
4) Posh thiccc pale-dirt-blonde colored hair
5) Is a rich self-made person out of Waterdeep
6) Experienced wizard with dozens of magicka stories from her travels to share
7) Kinda valued amoung top mages of the cost even knows Elmisnter himself
8) Courted a goddess once (Yuri ahoi!)
9) Has dark curse and a looming duty to fullfill
10) Witty comments & gets along well with most of the crew

Imagine how big of a better chracter she would be! A totally favorite char for both good & evil parties. Literally top girl, who would need Minthara Karlach or Shadowheart in that case!

While male Gale is just "yet another posh stereotypical hairsaloon boy". (imo)

[Hex]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Sunricer:

How does this work for Karlach exactly? She's THE girliest of the companions by a mile.

"No, all feminine women are demure and weak and do whatever the men-folk tell them!"

Just guessing.

That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole, because I don't think anyone has ever said anything of the sort.

People like you is why any discussion turns into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Lamiosa:

Originally posted by BigJ:

I think the bigger issue is thst generally male companions sre nice to the pc, Asterion is only evil towards strangers, Gale is quite nice despite been a shut in to an extend and Wyll is a bro, same for Halsin if he wasn't so kinky towards act 3 about everything, but I get it.

While for female characters, only Karlach is nice to the pc. Lae Zel is for modt of the game racist, zealous and hostile to anything but the mission, Shadowheart while good natured is a backstabbint secretive elfspawn.

If we had an extra nice female character and a classic male douchebag, maybe some form of pirate or sword for hire that owns us his life but is still an ass, the balance would be better.

That is not allowed. A woman being toxic is progressive, a man being toxic is toxic masculinity. We still need some generations till gender really does not matter anymore. At the moment we are at overcompensation to even it out.

When women are drafted into the army for mandatory military service like men are in my country, I might care about "muh equality"

But as long as it's a one-way street, I don't give the faintest of ♥♥♥♥♥.

[Lans]

Originally posted by Lamiosa:

Originally posted by BigJ:

I think the bigger issue is thst generally male companions sre nice to the pc, Asterion is only evil towards strangers, Gale is quite nice despite been a shut in to an extend and Wyll is a bro, same for Halsin if he wasn't so kinky towards act 3 about everything, but I get it.

While for female characters, only Karlach is nice to the pc. Lae Zel is for modt of the game racist, zealous and hostile to anything but the mission, Shadowheart while good natured is a backstabbint secretive elfspawn.

If we had an extra nice female character and a classic male douchebag, maybe some form of pirate or sword for hire that owns us his life but is still an ass, the balance would be better.

That is not allowed. A woman being toxic is progressive, a man being toxic is toxic masculinity. We still need some generations till gender really does not matter anymore. At the moment we are at overcompensation to even it out.

And this is a factual statement in 2023. Modern day feminism is just forcing girls into taking the roles of men, whether or not they qualify for it or even want it. You should see the shame the internet brings to happily married women who stay home to raise children

At least there's that one tiefling girl that dreams of a happily ever after with her husband when she reaches Baldurs Gate. Bex I think her name is. She also has the softest and most feminine features of probably any character in game, and she's part demon

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Lans:

Originally posted by Lamiosa:

That is not allowed. A woman being toxic is progressive, a man being toxic is toxic masculinity. We still need some generations till gender really does not matter anymore. At the moment we are at overcompensation to even it out.

And this is a factual statement in 2023. Modern day feminism is just forcing girls into taking the roles of men, whether or not they qualify for it or even want it. You should see the shame the internet brings to happily married women who stay home to raise children

At least there's that one tiefling girl that dreams of a happily ever after with her husband when she reaches Baldurs Gate. Bex I think her name is. She also has the softest and most feminine features of probably any character in game, and she's part demon

Spoilers.







She has an accident during the shadowlands...

[Lans]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

"No, all feminine women are demure and weak and do whatever the men-folk tell them!"

Just guessing.

That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole, because I don't think anyone has ever said anything of the sort.

People like you is why any discussion turns into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Aerie is so feminine and girly your warriors want to throw her off a cliff to see if her stumped wings still work. Imoen is extremely girly in BG1, full of spunk and optimism - turned to dread and dreary clingy-type after her captivity experience in BG2. Nalia is a mage girl who goes to the copper coronet to beg for a MALE WARRIOR to fight to protect her home and her lands, and will even marry you (male warrior) to prevent her lands from being lordless and conquered

[Lans]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Originally posted by Lans:

And this is a factual statement in 2023. Modern day feminism is just forcing girls into taking the roles of men, whether or not they qualify for it or even want it. You should see the shame the internet brings to happily married women who stay home to raise children

At least there's that one tiefling girl that dreams of a happily ever after with her husband when she reaches Baldurs Gate. Bex I think her name is. She also has the softest and most feminine features of probably any character in game, and she's part demon

Spoilers.







She has an accident during the shadowlands...

I found her at last light inn crying about her husband, but I haven't "rescued" him yet. I have no expectation to see her alive and well when I reach the city

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

"No, all feminine women are demure and weak and do whatever the men-folk tell them!"

Just guessing.

That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole, because I don't think anyone has ever said anything of the sort.

People like you is why any discussion turns into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

We're talking about personal opinions on the subject of what it means to be "feminine", though, not DnD/FR. Besides, it was meant as a joke.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Lans:

Originally posted by Hex:

That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole, because I don't think anyone has ever said anything of the sort.

People like you is why any discussion turns into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Aerie is so feminine and girly your warriors want to throw her off a cliff to see if her stumped wings still work. Imoen is extremely girly in BG1, full of spunk and optimism - turned to dread and dreary clingy-type after her captivity experience in BG2. Nalia is a mage girl who goes to the copper coronet to beg for a MALE WARRIOR to fight to protect her home and her lands, and will even marry you (male warrior) to prevent her lands from being lordless and conquered

How telling that you left out Jaheira, Viconia, Dynaheir and Mazzy.

Try again, with less fail.

[Lans]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Lans:

Aerie is so feminine and girly your warriors want to throw her off a cliff to see if her stumped wings still work. Imoen is extremely girly in BG1, full of spunk and optimism - turned to dread and dreary clingy-type after her captivity experience in BG2. Nalia is a mage girl who goes to the copper coronet to beg for a MALE WARRIOR to fight to protect her home and her lands, and will even marry you (male warrior) to prevent her lands from being lordless and conquered

How telling that you left out Jaheira, Viconia, Dynaheir and Mazzy.

Try again, with less fail.

"That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole" - you, about 30 minutes ago

Never, except for those 3 examples off the top of my head? Probably a ton of others I'm not even aware of.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Lans:

Originally posted by Hex:

How telling that you left out Jaheira, Viconia, Dynaheir and Mazzy.

Try again, with less fail.

"That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole" - you, about 30 minutes ago

Never, except for those 3 examples off the top of my head? Probably a ton of others I'm not even aware of.

/rolleyes

There has never been a specific way women are portrayed in Forgotten Realms. How the ♥♥♥♥ did you manage to miss the blindingly obvious point?

[wtiger27]

I would still leave her in the portal. Unless she was very hot and the sex scenes where better than they are.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Lans:

"That has never been a thing in DnD or Forgottn Realms so you might wanna cut back on the hyperbole" - you, about 30 minutes ago

Never, except for those 3 examples off the top of my head? Probably a ton of others I'm not even aware of.

/rolleyes

There has never been a specific way women are portrayed in Forgotten Realms. How the ♥♥♥♥ did you manage to miss the blindingly obvious point?

Afaik the only specific about women in Forgotten Realms is the description related to their race, class, deity and such. Like you don't describe Drow female as Suzy Homemaker -)
How characters is portrayed else come down to narrative and story.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Hex:

/rolleyes

There has never been a specific way women are portrayed in Forgotten Realms. How the ♥♥♥♥ did you manage to miss the blindingly obvious point?

Afaik the only specific about women in Forgotten Realms is the description related to their race, class, deity and such. Like you don't describe Drow female as Suzy Homemaker -)
How characters is portrayed else come down to narrative and story.

Yes, women have been adventurers and warriors and stuff since 1st edition.

[Forlorn]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Lamiosa:

All definitions are meaningless, if you say everything can be everything.

Coincidentally, some definitions are also meaningless if they "define" nothing.

You say men are masculine and women are feminine by definition. Sure, that's true. But then you have men with high-pitched voices, little to no body hair, and who abhor violence and aggression - all traits that certain people associate with femininity. So are these men suddenly not masculine, or is "masculinity" simply a meaningless term?

Remember, men used to wear skirts, wigs, and make-up, and boys used to wear pink. "Masculinity" is a meaningless term.

If it was a meaningless term you wouldn't be talking about it, hypocrite.

[Snootch]

Originally posted by Vulgar Puppet Master:

Originally posted by Elfie:

Just a thought. Lets call her Galina.

She (if we only alter appearance and gender, and keep all other traits/backstory of Gale intact):
1) Is a powerful witch
2) Is casual about relatshionship be it romance or frienship, also bi
3) Overall cheerful personality, + the usual Chaotic Neutral frolics
4) Posh thiccc pale-dirt-blonde colored hair
5) Is a rich self-made person out of Waterdeep
6) Experienced wizard with dozens of magicka stories from her travels to share
7) Kinda valued amoung top mages of the cost even knows Elmisnter himself
8) Courted a goddess once (Yuri ahoi!)
9) Has dark curse and a looming duty to fullfill
10) Witty comments & gets along well with most of the crew

Imagine how big of a better chracter she would be! A totally favorite char for both good & evil parties. Literally top girl, who would need Minthara Karlach or Shadowheart in that case!

While male Gale is just "yet another posh stereotypical hairsaloon boy". (imo)

Imagine if you where a real women instead of a fake man! Is all i got from this..

Ha ha, you got banned for your bullsh*t. People like you should be perma-banned and have your entire account locked, you clearly are not here to be in any way productive.