I don't understand the Baldur Gate 3 hype

[Bongoboy]

I play, or try to play, Baldurs Gate 3. It is one of a few tries to play CRPGs. But I don't really get into them.

In Baldurs Gate 3 one thing that prevents me from enjoying the game is the fiddly control, like as example telling one character to go to a spot and then trying to click on another character on the left doesn't switch to that character often times and I have to press a F key. Or that rule set is so convoluted with hardly any guide makes combat really un-intuitive and confusing. Maybe it is me being to stupid to understand it or it is that D&D system.
The fact that there are so many containers lying around everywhere and that you can talk with nearly everyone which then has a huge list of things you can talk with about doesn't help it either.

I wonder if there are people that are willing to tell me what they like so much at this whole game, without flaming me and being honest.

[Incarna]

There is no need to talk with everyone and open everything and do everything, you will get crazy and tired. Talk to the people you are told to following the map markers and some random people. Then whenever you decide to play again (or if like me you restart games when you finally understood how the system works and want to do things better) you will be surprised by new things.

Regarding why I like it. I'm just having fun and every day I get surprised by a new detail. I played for hours not noticing I could move objects and climb them lol. Also some days ago I fought against a robot and I defeated him throwing him bottles of water because electronics...

I didn't even think this is the GOTY or revolutionary as internet said, but I'm looking at other games now and I can tell the difference in the quality of NPC animations during dialogues. And there is usually zero interactions with the environment except from levers, buttons and doors and barrels that can explode, while in BG3 you can even create a barricade to stop NPCs from entering a room, throw water and electrify it, throw grease and make people fall or set them on fire, use water to get rid of the fire, make plants grow and trap the enemies, set the plants on fire, throw water to a party member that is covered in blood to give him a bath. And well, everything can be solved in many ways, you can fight, convince people not to fight you, convince people to suicide, help the good guys, join the bad guys, interview a corpse instead of looking for murder clues, get information from animals, etc.

[Bongoboy]

Originally posted by Incarna:

And there is usually zero interactions with the environment except from levers, buttons and doors and barrels that can explode, while in BG3 you can even create a barricade to stop NPCs from entering a room, throw water and electrify it, throw grease and make people fall or set them on fire, use water to get rid of the fire, make plants grow and trap the enemies, set the plants on fire, throw water to a party member that is covered in blood to give him a bath.

You should try out Larians other games then, I tried their first one, Divine Divinity, its 2D but you can already stack chests and all kind other stuff you can do here. Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are similar I been told.

[Incarna]

Originally posted by Bongoboy:

Originally posted by Incarna:

And there is usually zero interactions with the environment except from levers, buttons and doors and barrels that can explode, while in BG3 you can even create a barricade to stop NPCs from entering a room, throw water and electrify it, throw grease and make people fall or set them on fire, use water to get rid of the fire, make plants grow and trap the enemies, set the plants on fire, throw water to a party member that is covered in blood to give him a bath.

You should try out Larians other games then, I tried their first one, Divine Divinity, its 2D but you can already stack chests and all kind other stuff you can do here. Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are similar I been told.

I will 😃

[Kafik]

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[Mr Fred]

Baby first crpg nothing more nothing less, it non ironically was made for people like you OP. Its as bland and shallow as it get and overall not half as good as either pathfinder or even decades old neverwinter nights titles were.

[Dweller Beyond the Threshold]

Not every game is for everyone. Many people loving this game doesn't mean you must/will too. You just need to understand that many people love this game for one reason or another. And maybe these reasons simply don't apply to you,

[Rex is back, baby!]

Originally posted by Bongoboy:

I play, or try to play, Baldurs Gate 3. It is one of a few tries to play CRPGs. But I don't really get into them.

In Baldurs Gate 3 one thing that prevents me from enjoying the game is the fiddly control, like as example telling one character to go to a spot and then trying to click on another character on the left doesn't switch to that character often times and I have to press a F key. Or that rule set is so convoluted with hardly any guide makes combat really un-intuitive and confusing. Maybe it is me being to stupid to understand it or it is that D&D system.
The fact that there are so many containers lying around everywhere and that you can talk with nearly everyone which then has a huge list of things you can talk with about doesn't help it either.

I wonder if there are people that are willing to tell me what they like so much at this whole game, without flaming me and being honest.

Oh no joke, the popularity of BG3 is an anomaly. The development cycle of BG3 is an anomaly.

It's very formulaic for a CPRG. and CRPGs DO have steep learning curves. You either love them or you don't. Thing is, their audience is normally very niche... BG3 changed that, brought a CRPG into the main stream, to the point that nearly 900k concurrent players on PC alone. The second most popular CRPG is Divinity: Original Sin 2, highest peak at 90k. Bg3 has 10x the number of players. Many people are even buying the game with no intention of playing it because they agree with Larian's developer philosophy.

[BK-BERKE]

It's a great game, but not as much as people exaggerate. We experienced the same situation at Elden Ring and before. Today, games can be declared masterpieces very quickly by the masses. But being a masterpiece is not that easy. However, when there is a general excitement wave, everyone gives the same reactions as herd psychology. However, even the number of those who completed the game is not that high. The same thing happened at Elden Ring. It was praised by people who bought the game before it was even halfway through the game. This population was at most one in five. In conclusion, I will say: We live in an age of unnecessary exaggeration.

[Bongoboy]

Originally posted by bk-berke:

It's a great game, but not as much as people exaggerate.
~snip~
I will say: We live in an age of unnecessary exaggeration.

I tried out Divine Divinity back in 2002 when a friend that had it had his PC in my house for a Lan party we had for Diablo 2, and I also came into contact with Baldurs Gate 1 in that time. For some reason I could not really get into either game, you need to know I grew up on console JRPGs with Final Fantasy 4 on Snes, Shining in the Darkness on Genesis and all of the usual Strategy Game suspects like Shining Force, Warsong, Ogre battle. I played consoles until the early 2000s where I switched to PC.
I looked at videos of Divinity Original Sin 2 that people tout as masterpiece as well, but could not get behind it. While I played Neverwinter Nights back then the D&D system is a really rather strange beast. Many of its rules make no sense in a video game, they only make real sense in a tabletop game.

So yeah I tried to get into Baldurs Gate 3 and was repelled by many things.
One thing would be the way you select and level up a class. Larian did a extremely poor job at explaining how all of the systems work and what they influence. I have some experience with D&D through Neverwinter Nights but that was 2 edition and Baldurs Gate 3 is 5th.
The same issue is it with the rest of the gameplay, Baldurs Gate 3 overwhelms the player with possibilities in dialogue as well as combat... while not providing any guide.

Only after spending a couple hours reading wiki pages about Baldurs Gate 3 where the character & class system is explained in detail what each feature, proficiency, skill and spell does in the game. I not blame Larian for this, but I do blame them to not create the tooltips clear enough. That and some tooltips are sketchy, like that feat "Lucky" where it fails to mention that those 3 Lucky points reset on a Long Rest.

So yeah, after watching a friend play it, I realized you have to not rush stuff. You have to treat every spot, every screen in a really methodical and relaxed manner. [o]Baldurs Gate 3 is not like a Diablo[/o] where you just want to rush through to kill as many monsters as possible to increase all the loot drops so you have the highest possibility to roll the loot dice and get the best gear fast.
No in Baldurs Gate 3 as well as the Original Sin games, you have to take your time at every spot, to look around and access the situation. It is a slow game, there are many things you should not rush, and that goes from the character/class system over being in a cellar full of traps,riddles, boxes and chests... to the dialogue system that allows you to achieve many outcomes with lasting consequences.

So yeah I just bought me that Divinity Original Sin 1&2 set that was on sale this week, and as time and mood allows I will sit down and take it slow on them.

[Illuminary]

Originally posted by Bongoboy:

Originally posted by bk-berke:

It's a great game, but not as much as people exaggerate.
~snip~
I will say: We live in an age of unnecessary exaggeration.

I tried out Divine Divinity back in 2002 when a friend that had it had his PC in my house for a Lan party we had for Diablo 2, and I also came into contact with Baldurs Gate 1 in that time. For some reason I could not really get into either game, you need to know I grew up on console JRPGs with Final Fantasy 4 on Snes, Shining in the Darkness on Genesis and all of the usual Strategy Game suspects like Shining Force, Warsong, Ogre battle. I played consoles until the early 2000s where I switched to PC.
I looked at videos of Divinity Original Sin 2 that people tout as masterpiece as well, but could not get behind it. While I played Neverwinter Nights back then the D&D system is a really rather strange beast. Many of its rules make no sense in a video game, they only make real sense in a tabletop game.

So yeah I tried to get into Baldurs Gate 3 and was repelled by many things.
One thing would be the way you select and level up a class. Larian did a extremely poor job at explaining how all of the systems work and what they influence. I have some experience with D&D through Neverwinter Nights but that was 2 edition and Baldurs Gate 3 is 5th.
The same issue is it with the rest of the gameplay, Baldurs Gate 3 overwhelms the player with possibilities in dialogue as well as combat... while not providing any guide.

Only after spending a couple hours reading wiki pages about Baldurs Gate 3 where the character & class system is explained in detail what each feature, proficiency, skill and spell does in the game. I not blame Larian for this, but I do blame them to not create the tooltips clear enough. That and some tooltips are sketchy, like that feat "Lucky" where it fails to mention that those 3 Lucky points reset on a Long Rest.

So yeah, after watching a friend play it, I realized you have to not rush stuff. You have to treat every spot, every screen in a really methodical and relaxed manner. [o]Baldurs Gate 3 is not like a Diablo[/o] where you just want to rush through to kill as many monsters as possible to increase all the loot drops so you have the highest possibility to roll the loot dice and get the best gear fast.
No in Baldurs Gate 3 as well as the Original Sin games, you have to take your time at every spot, to look around and access the situation. It is a slow game, there are many things you should not rush, and that goes from the character/class system over being in a cellar full of traps,riddles, boxes and chests... to the dialogue system that allows you to achieve many outcomes with lasting consequences.

So yeah I just bought me that Divinity Original Sin 1&2 set that was on sale this week, and as time and mood allows I will sit down and take it slow on them.

cRPGs are an acquired taste, problem is BG3 is just Divinity Original Sin 2 with restrictive immersion breaking DnD 5e rules slapped on haphazardly. DOS2 is overall a better game but it is also harder. You're almost better off reading and watching vids on BG3 first before trying DOS2. Pillars of Eternity even though it's real time with pause is probably a better starting point.

[Aesthier]

I can empathize with you to some degree OP.

Personally I feel the previous Balder's gates were much better even if this one has some updated graphics. But then those who are over hyping BG3 probably didn't play the previous versions or get what they were looking for from them.

But that's just my opinion. Others will vary I am sure.

[5hadowfax]

Originally posted by Bongoboy:

trying to click on another character on the left doesn't switch to that character often times

I love the game, think it is amazing - however I have started to notice this and hope it gets fixed soon.

[Ranpo]

Well many people don't really care if you get it but you had to make this post to express your feelings in hopes someone would see and feel the same as you do.

[Manwich]

Originally posted by Bongoboy:

I play, or try to play, Baldurs Gate 3. It is one of a few tries to play CRPGs. But I don't really get into them.

In Baldurs Gate 3 one thing that prevents me from enjoying the game is the fiddly control, like as example telling one character to go to a spot and then trying to click on another character on the left doesn't switch to that character often times and I have to press a F key. Or that rule set is so convoluted with hardly any guide makes combat really un-intuitive and confusing. Maybe it is me being to stupid to understand it or it is that D&D system.
The fact that there are so many containers lying around everywhere and that you can talk with nearly everyone which then has a huge list of things you can talk with about doesn't help it either.

I wonder if there are people that are willing to tell me what they like so much at this whole game, without flaming me and being honest.

Maybe you missed it, but on the character creation screen you can choose your genitals. And then afterwards you can see the chosen genitals during your gameplay, without mods.

That should sum it up for you.

[Seraphiel]

Use a controller, it massively improves the experience.