So in DnD there is no way to cure vampire spawn?

[Oh My God! It's Jason Bourne!]

I've heard you can use lvl 9 Wish spell to cure it, but other than that there is no way? Killing master vampire not an option? There is no special potion you can make ? I just feel bad for Astarion being spawn.

Also what do you thing happens with Astarion when he ascends using the ritual? You think he loses his soul, cuz he has markings on his back even tho he performs it, also he is a spawn and not an actual vampire, is he getting all the power from it or just boost to what he had and say Cazador would have been much more powerful?

[HoneyDrake]

Origineel geplaatst door Jester Perv:

Origineel geplaatst door Estevan Valladares:

If am a DM, resurrection wont work. The text goes:
"This spell neutralizes any poisons and cures normal diseases afflicting the creature when it died. It doesn't, however, remove magical diseases, curses, and the like, if such affects aren't removed prior to casting the spell, they afflict the target on its return to life."

I am pretty sure vampirism is not a poison effect or a normal disease.

Then what is vampirism? Curse?

vampires are undead. so reviving them counts as curing them. But you need to kill them entirely as you require either an corpse or their soul (you need to know their name in that case to revive them).

[Estevan Valladares]

Origineel geplaatst door Honey Drake:

Origineel geplaatst door Estevan Valladares:

If am a DM, resurrection wont work. The text goes:
"This spell neutralizes any poisons and cures normal diseases afflicting the creature when it died. It doesn't, however, remove magical diseases, curses, and the like, if such affects aren't removed prior to casting the spell, they afflict the target on its return to life."

I am pretty sure vampirism is not a poison effect or a normal disease.

Well, undepending if you are an DM, or not, resurrection is treated that way, it does not heal vampirism, a vampire is an undead being and resurection revives someone up to X days/years depending on version.

And to revive someone you need to kill that being, it can be an zombie, it can be an vampire.

You "need" to revive the corpse, it will be revived as an human, not an undead, after all. And a vampire can only be an undead.

The thing is: If you read the fine print of almost all RPG systems, you might know that they have a kind of "DM do whatever they want clause". All that "the priority is fun", and "your story your rules" and all the "good stuff" northfolk like.

So yeah, there are a lot of DMs who accept things to make the game "more fun", which to some mean "easier".

[HoneyDrake]

Origineel geplaatst door Estevan Valladares:

Origineel geplaatst door Honey Drake:

Well, undepending if you are an DM, or not, resurrection is treated that way, it does not heal vampirism, a vampire is an undead being and resurection revives someone up to X days/years depending on version.

And to revive someone you need to kill that being, it can be an zombie, it can be an vampire.

You "need" to revive the corpse, it will be revived as an human, not an undead, after all. And a vampire can only be an undead.

The thing is: If you read the fine print of almost all RPG systems, you might know that they have a kind of "DM do whatever they want clause". All that "the priority is fun", and "your story your rules" and all the "good stuff" northfolk like.

So yeah, there are a lot of DMs who accept things to make the game "more fun", which to some mean "easier".

I am fine with people using their own story, logic, etc.

But let's assume we are talking about 5e, basic version, no house rules, etc.

In which case vampires are treated as just some undead.
In which case you can kill them, like burning them, and then revive them. And once they are revived they will come back alive, not as an undead, aka being "cured".

And I can not find anything supporting your claims that there are any other overgods besides Ao. Only speculations and assumptions that some could be overgods but often times their power level is way inferior or their might is concentrated on a small aspect like it's the case for Io.

[jonnin]

Origineel geplaatst door Jester Perv:

Origineel geplaatst door Estevan Valladares:

If am a DM, resurrection wont work. The text goes:
"This spell neutralizes any poisons and cures normal diseases afflicting the creature when it died. It doesn't, however, remove magical diseases, curses, and the like, if such affects aren't removed prior to casting the spell, they afflict the target on its return to life."

I am pretty sure vampirism is not a poison effect or a normal disease.

Then what is vampirism? Curse?

Yes. It is technically a magical disease, I believe, same as mummy rot or the like which can only be cured by magic, never by conventional recovery (like say the flu). But its worse than that because magical cures usually do not work on it due to its incredible power/level of difficulty. Its meant to be a big deal to get rid of it, and its meant to be highly risky (and rewarding, of course) to bring down even a lower level vampire. A master one is as epic as slaying a dragon, really, due to the risks caused not just by the master but his lackeys which include lesser vampires, spawns, and greater undead like wights/wraiths etc which are all nasty as well.

[Ruffio]

Origineel geplaatst door Estevan Valladares:

Origineel geplaatst door Honey Drake:

Well, undepending if you are an DM, or not, resurrection is treated that way, it does not heal vampirism, a vampire is an undead being and resurection revives someone up to X days/years depending on version.

And to revive someone you need to kill that being, it can be an zombie, it can be an vampire.

You "need" to revive the corpse, it will be revived as an human, not an undead, after all. And a vampire can only be an undead.

The thing is: If you read the fine print of almost all RPG systems, you might know that they have a kind of "DM do whatever they want clause". All that "the priority is fun", and "your story your rules" and all the "good stuff" northfolk like.

So yeah, there are a lot of DMs who accept things to make the game "more fun", which to some mean "easier".

Tbh I find it more fun when a DM is more punishing when players wanting things that a bit out there. The entire consequence of actions....