Baldur's Gate 3

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So in DnD there is no way to cure vampire spawn?
I've heard you can use lvl 9 Wish spell to cure it, but other than that there is no way? Killing master vampire not an option? There is no special potion you can make ? I just feel bad for Astarion being spawn.

Also what do you thing happens with Astarion when he ascends using the ritual? You think he loses his soul, cuz he has markings on his back even tho he performs it, also he is a spawn and not an actual vampire, is he getting all the power from it or just boost to what he had and say Cazador would have been much more powerful?
Last edited by Oh My God! It's Jason Bourne!; Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:28pm
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Ackranome Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:06pm 
Pretty sure you can Wish to be AO in D&D.
HoneyDrake Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:08pm 
In DnD you can actually kill a vampire and then revive them to bring them back as a mortal.
"Wish" is just the easy solution to every single thing. It's game breaking and DM's hate it because it's horrible to think around if someone wants to, and they don't even have to abuse it.

edit: just a copy pasta from "True Resurrection" spell:

9th level necromancy spell:

This spell closes all wounds, neutralizes any poison, cures all diseases, and lifts any curses affecting the creature when it died. The spell replaces damaged or missing organs and limbs.
The spell can even provide a new body if the original no longer exists, in which case you must speak the creature’s name. The creature then appears in an unoccupied space you choose within 10 feet of you.
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Ranpo Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:10pm 
Astarion doesn't lose his soul, everyone else in that contract did.
Originally posted by Ranpo:
Astarion doesn't lose his soul, everyone else in that contract did.
He is different after it, like less human so to speak, more evil.
In DnD there is a way to do anything. But it is like the French man says in the Matrix:
"Where some see coincidence, I see consequence. Where others see chance, I see cost."
DnD has a number of ways in which you can pull a "Dragonball", or more like kids these days know, and very crappy version while at it, "Thor's Love and Thunder ending".

So basically you will find someone, somewhere, with some power that can do whatever you want, be it in that exact wording or a specific thing that does it.
The problem is not how to do it, the problem is cost.

While the wish spell "might work" (it will really boil down to the DM wanting it or not), there are other means to do it. Almost all are a "wildcard" method. There is afaik no specific thing that will be "specifically designed" to cure it.

And the idea that klling a master vampire reverts the vampires he sired is an idiotic plot device to make movies have happy endings. What happens when you kill the sire of a vampire is that the vampires below that sire will become their own masters. Often then what happens is one go killing the others until there are no threats to that winner's coven. That is even said by Astarion at some point: The worse threat to a vampire is not a vampire hunter or sunlight. It is the other vampires.
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HoneyDrake Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:14pm 
Hell, here is a complete list and the time frame a spell would work on them:

Raise Dead - 10 days since transformation
Resurrection - 100 years since transformation
True Resurrection - 200 years since transformation

Afterwards you need godly intervention or use "wish"
Originally posted by Ackranome:
Pretty sure you can Wish to be AO in D&D.
What is "AO"?
jonnin Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:18pm 
AO is one of the gods of this universe. He mostly avoids the world and has near 0 presence / followers/etc. But he is out there, if you can make contact.

D&D tabletop has a DM who can let you do whatever -- you can get cured by paying a high level cleric/wizard, some epic quest, some rare magic item, whatever he thinks up for it. Could even go skyrim, give it an incubation period where you have to rush to cure it else you turn...
This is the beauty of table top.
Video game, your DM is a harsh, unthinking rulemonger who probably doesn't offer any cure, not 100% sure as I don't like this companion.
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Action Man Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
Ao is the god over the other gods.
mechagf Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
Originally posted by Honey Drake:
Hell, here is a complete list and the time frame a spell would work on them:

Raise Dead - 10 days since transformation
Resurrection - 100 years since transformation
True Resurrection - 200 years since transformation

Afterwards you need godly intervention or use "wish"
And Astarion has been a vampire for over 200 years as well so I suppose it would have to be a Wish spell in this case lmao
If am a DM, resurrection wont work. The text goes:
"This spell neutralizes any poisons and cures normal diseases afflicting the creature when it died. It doesn't, however, remove magical diseases, curses, and the like, if such affects aren't removed prior to casting the spell, they afflict the target on its return to life."

I am pretty sure vampirism is not a poison effect or a normal disease.

True resurrection on the other hand:
"This spell closes all wounds, neutralizes any poison, cures all diseases, and lifts any curses affecting the creature when it died. The spell replaces damaged or missing organs or limbs.

The spell can even provide a new body if the original no longer exists, in which case you must speak the creature's name. The creature then appears in an unoccupied space you choose within 10 feet of you."
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HoneyDrake Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:21pm 
Originally posted by Action Man:
Ao is the god over the other gods.
Ao is an "overgod" and represents the "will of the DM". He is always a strong as he needs to be.

Ao is the only known overgod in the pantheon, too. Please correct me if this isn't the case anymore.
Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:
If am a DM, resurrection wont work. The text goes:
"This spell neutralizes any poisons and cures normal diseases afflicting the creature when it died. It doesn't, however, remove magical diseases, curses, and the like, if such affects aren't removed prior to casting the spell, they afflict the target on its return to life."

I am pretty sure vampirism is not a poison effect or a normal disease.
Then what is vampirism? Curse?
HoneyDrake Sep 2, 2023 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:
If am a DM, resurrection wont work. The text goes:
"This spell neutralizes any poisons and cures normal diseases afflicting the creature when it died. It doesn't, however, remove magical diseases, curses, and the like, if such affects aren't removed prior to casting the spell, they afflict the target on its return to life."

I am pretty sure vampirism is not a poison effect or a normal disease.
Well, undepending if you are an DM, or not, resurrection is treated that way, it does not heal vampirism, a vampire is an undead being and resurection revives someone up to X days/years depending on version.

And to revive someone you need to kill that being, it can be an zombie, it can be an vampire.

You "need" to revive the corpse, it will be revived as an human, not an undead, after all. And a vampire can only be an undead.
Originally posted by Honey Drake:
Originally posted by Action Man:
Ao is the god over the other gods.
Ao is an "overgod" and represents the "will of the DM". He is always a strong as he needs to be.

Ao is the only known overgod in the pantheon, too. Please correct me if this isn't the case anymore.

That is not true. I use kindle, but I guess there must be a Google thing you can go and read the D&D 5e books in a form you can "search" them.
The list of Overdeities (Because it has Gods and Godesses) is actually quite large beyond "only".
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