TIRED OF TRASH: We Need To Start Holding Game Studios Accountable

[Night Writer]

The fact that there is so much praise for this under-cooked (i.e Not Finished) Game when much of it is copy pasted directly from the DOS2 engine, shows just how bad things have gotten as far as consumers acceptance of the utter drool most studios are releasing these days and Larian, that includes your utter drool.

We as consumers need to hold companies like you accountable for these types of releases. If we keep giving into this kind of mentality that games can be released with over 1000+ known bugs and need to have 4 hotfixes and 2 large patches released within the first month of release we are setting ourselves up for a future of constant failed/bug ridden releases. (Which as you can see is not really in the future, IT'S THE PRESENT)

My question to all you lovers of LARIAN out there would be this> "If they were able to identify 1000+ bugs, and release 4 hotfixes, and 2 large patches within 1 month of official release, why couldn't they have discovered and fixed those issues in that same amount of time.... prior to release?"

You are probably thinking it's because they didn't have a Q/A Team and Beta-Testers right? Wrong... they did.. For 3 years, remember Early Access.. 3 years of it?, Oh wait that's right, ACT 2 and 3 weren't available for early access were they? Aren't those the acts that everyone is complaining about.. (INSTANT CRANIAL MELTDOWN ENSUES)

Everyone is propping up LARIAN, for how fast they are fixing bugs, but we are all missing the bigger picture. The only reason they can fix these issues so quickly is because they were already completely aware of many of them and were already working on many of them, prior to the release of the game. Yet they still released BG3 (Buggy Game 3) and charged you full price, and thus we all started our bug filled play through thinking LARIAN was something special, something different perhaps...

Turns out they are just like every other Developer in the industry.

The purpose of this post is simple, to call attention to an ever growing trend of Developers releasing buggy half finished or rushed games.

I don't need anyone in this thread to say yay or nay regarding this because my opinion has already been proven factual by the developer themselves.

They are on Major patch #2 and 4 hot fixes, addressing over 1000+ bugs (their own numbers, not mine) within the first month of release.

Many players have had to completely start their campaign over due to bugs, corrupted saves, or in an interest of going back to see what they missed from before the updates due to the changes being made.

If any of you think they(devs) feel this is a positive thing, you might never have crafted anything in your lives. Because the feeling of making something and seeing that it needs this much more work to get it where it needs to be is not something I or they would be proud of.

This type of game development should not be the expected norm nor should this be accepted by us the end users.

This game needed another 6 months to a year in the oven, and the devs certainly know that. What worries me is that so many of you do not understand that.

Lets compare this product to any other product and see how you would feel if it didn't work as intended or if it wasn't finished.

Examples:

When you order a hamburger and fries, and and they bring you only a bun with no meat and stale fries, and then they said, oh we are cooking the meat and it'll be ready in about an hour, what would you say?

What if you went to a car dealerhship, and bought a new car, and they washed it up and brought it around for you and it had no seats? And the lights wouldn't turn on. And when they said Um, yeah we have the seats on order and they will be here in a month. What would you do?

What if you ordered some stuff from Amazon, and they shipped only 50% of your order, but still charged you the full order price.. What do you do? Would you be shouting their praise from the mountain tops? Would you come to their defense?

You see if you compare Games Software Development to essentially every other craft, product or service, none of them can get away with what Game Studios can get away with. Which is to sell you a broken, unfinished game for $60- $70 dollars, and then know you have 3 hours to test it and after that you have no recourse if the game breaks in some way.

The worst part is that so many of you are slurping this BS up with a spoon, and saying give me more please Sir. Its PATHETIC what we have allowed the gaming industry to become.

You are spending real money on real products, so how come those products are not being held to the same standards you would expect from any other product or service you buy?

[Night Writer]

Let me know your thoughts, because we need to start making changes as consumers.

[Deleted *******]

Originally posted by Night Writer:

Let me know your thoughts, because we need to start making changes as consumers.

Calm down, look at the starfield, diablo 4, and other "AAA" games that are a complete mess. And then there comes a rare CRPG DnD game that explodes in popularity, the company keeps making patches upgrading it, and you still complain.

This game is one of a kind, and is going to be remembered for a long time by the gaming community in a positive way.

[Big Mad Wolf]

I hope you are aware, nobody can afford thousands of play testers :)

[Metr0Man]

It's always the private profiles that are the most obvious trolls

[KocLobster]

0/10 clowns

thats as much as you're gonna bait me to say

[Lovecraft]

Frankly we need to push back against 70$ unfinished garbage of games instead of a complete game out of the box like BG3. Yes act 3 is as it is but even then only like 5-10% of act 3 I was unsatisfied with.
Pleasse grow some balls and don't purchase games for 70$. Its just wrong.

[Hobocop]

Already doing my part by not buying Diablo 4 or Starfield at launch.

[ShadowDark3]

I 100% support this...for other games. Your frustration is completely justified, but BG3 is definitely not the title to take it out on.

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Already doing my part by not buying Diablo 4 or Starfield at launch.

[Night Writer]

Originally posted by Glizzy Gobbler:

It's always the private profiles that are the most obvious trolls

How is this post a Troll Post? Please indulge me, because I must know how sharing my opinion of the gaming industry and sharing facts about the number of glaring bugs that are present in the title is Trolling?

Sometimes you should look in the mirror and determine whether the troll is actually the person not adding anything of value to the conversation because in this case that person is you.

[AssassinZX]

Bruh, given the amount of other trash AAA money grab titles out there this year, this is one of the last games to do this for

[Night Writer]

Originally posted by EternalFun:

Originally posted by Night Writer:

Let me know your thoughts, because we need to start making changes as consumers.

Calm down, look at the starfield, diablo 4, and other "AAA" games that are a complete mess. And then there comes a rare CRPG DnD game that explodes in popularity, the company keeps making patches upgrading it, and you still complain.

This game is one of a kind, and is going to be remembered for a long time by the gaming community in a positive way.

Your comment is exactly the comment that proves my thread completely right. Thank You.
Please read your words, and then tell me we don't need to start holding Game Studios accountable? Just because Larian is releasing tons of bug fixes and patches to fix things doesn't exclude them from the same group that sold you a full price game that was knowingly a mess at launch.

While Yes of course there are worse offenders, Larian has committed the same offence. And they had 3 years of early access as well to top it off.

This title was not ready for release and if you take off your Fanboy Hat you will see what I am saying is the truth. WE NEED to come together as a consumer community and demand better quality releases.

I'm sorry it had to be BG3 that caused this thread, but in all honesty I wanted to love BG3, and I simply don't. It is broken, it is buggy and it should never have been released in this state.

[Estevan Valladares]

It is like those people who think you have to hold a supermarket accountable because they never told you a laxative causes diarrhea.
Honestly, there some stuff I blame Larian for not being CLEAR, but they did not said anything that is not true in the "lawyer speak" usually rolling around.
Almost everyone, even here, when trying to prove the devs said something, quotes a IGN article, gamerant video, in which people are saying what they said using words out of context and mixing meanings.
They sure should have dialed down the hype for the sake of the game. They should have been the ones to come up and say: Chill out people, it is not that.
But most of the hype came on the backs of other people.

There is a nice video about it that is fun to watch even to millennials:
https://youtu.be/O5BJVO3PDeQ

It is nothing new. It happens for a long time since the first games on Atari came out, and you saw that nice cover of "Pacman" and everyone knows how the game really is. Well, back then, people did not actually.
Modern people are just plagued by the same problem but they are too self important to think they actually dont know what "proceduraly generated" means, or what 3d engine does.

Doesnt people out there think there is a reason to ponder if AI have souls ? lol

[Cosgar]

https://youtu.be/r6OMCcoXT68?si=GrnGcOG-mE-SW2l5

[Tiviani]

What a mess of a thread.

BG3 has it's fair share of bugs and faults however it's leagues away from what Blizzard and Bethseda do. I paid once three years ago and I have never been badgered for money again.

Why not take this to Starfield or Diablo IV? Both of those cost $100 to play a week early.

Diablo IV crashed more on my PC due to connection issues and I wasn't even trying to play with multiplayer, I was just trying to finish the story. Which was okay but the end game is such a slog, that they made MORE OF A SLOG because they wanted people to grind longer. The shop notification never goes away and it felt like a re-skin of Diablo 3.

I've not tried Starfield myself but I've heard that it's not going great.

You have great points. AAA studios are ♥♥♥♥ now, they don't care about the product they are putting out.

At least Larian listens to the community, is putting in the effort to fix the mistakes and, get this cool thing, they're not charging us further for it.

[Paulo Ramos]

0/10 bait.