[SPOILERS] Looking for tips on SAFE ways to deal with Gale while (not) completing his companion quest

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I am currently playing an evil playthrough and I made a regrettable mistake of recruiting Gale instead of letting him stay stuck in the portal (or even DUrging him right there). While understanding Gale's condition makes his demands reasonable, the prideful sod refuses to share his secret with the protagonist demanding the help being provided based on blind trust.
That is something I might reluctantly do while playing do-gooder but it really goes against what my current evil selfish protagonist would likely do. Naturally, I do not want my evil playthrough to end prematurely due to Gale nuking the whole area I cannot escape either.
So I am looking for all available options and online sources I have found so far are surprisingly poor, often probably written just based on EA - thus I would like to ask the community here for tips (and corrections) on what to do with Gale. I will try to update the following with what I learn from you and elsewhere. What (I think) I know so far:

* you can choose not to pull Gale out of the portal - either leaving him there, DUrging him or not interacting with the portal at all - I assume all of these make Gale to never appear in BG3
* you can pull him out of the portal but refuse to accept him as a companion, I believe - not sure though if that makes him disappear from the game never to return?
** if you recruit him he will start to demand magical items to consume
* if you keep on refusing he will eventually steal and consume magical item of his choosing from your inventory (which is obviously worse than feeding him items of your choosing, not to mention HE will hate YOU for not giving him items willingly)
* if you kill him or he dies in combat you will be urged to resurrect him and if you refuse/fail to do so -> GAME OVER after 2 long rests
* if you pick him to be sacrificed to Booal -> GAME OVER after 2 long rests
* if you romance him and DUrge him - ??? not sure, this supposedly should be a safe way of getting rid of him and his 'condition' - could someone confirm?
** if you feed him magical items it should take 3 or 4 (not sure if the amount depends on something e.g. if you offer him magical items proactively vs. wait for him to ask for another), then he will disclose more information about his condition giving you choice (I assume you still cannot kill him or game over) to
* either banish him from your party (does this make him disappear from BG3 for good?)
** or agree to further help him (not sure if he will stop consuming magical items right there?) in which case you will meet Elminster soon who will stabilize Gale and direct him to destroying the heart of Absolute - when you finally confront Absolute, you can
* either let Gale use orb resulting in GAME OVER
* or (?) let Gale use orb successfully destroying the heart of Absolute without killing your whole party and ending Gale's Wizard of Waterdeep companion quest ??? - can someone confirm it is even possible? does this depend on some dice roll?
** or persuade Gale not to use the orb, in which case he will start to search for the Netherese Crown instead - once you get the crown, Gale will
* either give it to Mystra and finally be cured
* or keep it becomming stronger, leaving your party and attacking you and (hopefully) ending up dead

To summarize: once you recruit Gale, you cannot safely ignore his quest or leave him dead for more than 1 day, you only get one chance to get rid of him by banishing him after you feed him 3-4 magical items, and you can only safely kill him at the end of his questline if he decides to keep the crown.

If you notice any info incorrect, incomplete or missing, please share what you know on the subject.

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he ran away from my group when he told me about the bomb and me telling him to f off

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Originally posted by EternalFun:

he ran away from my group when he told me about the bomb and me telling him to f off

I assume that was after he consumed several of your magical items? (that's what I meant by 'you can banish him from your party')

[zero]

cant you just refuse several times and have him ♥♥♥♥ off?

[Skiddoo]

tbh those item you give him at the beginning are junk lol

[Ranpo]

Just give him trash greens and he'll be happy.

[ketaro_su]

Honestly magic items are pretty dirt cheap in this game. Toss him a green item like you would a dog a bone. Gale is literally as easy to please as a dog. What're you losing? ~60 gp? Toss the boy a bone, call him a good boy, and send him back out their to die for you.


All it takes is a change in perspective, not a change of morals.

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by Skiddoo:

tbh those item you give him at the beginning are junk lol

Not even worth much to sell in grand scheme either

[IvoryTemplar]

Just throw trash magic items at him. If you're playing evil you don't need to worry about money since you can just have Astarion steal them from vendors. Hell, even if you're playing good you can still just buy trash to feed him. It's not like gold is hard to come buy when you can send a bunch of armor and weapons to your camp.

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Originally posted by zero:

cant you just refuse several times and have him ♥♥♥♥ off?

Read the original post - if you continue to refuse him, he will steal from you.

[zero]

Originally posted by grrusa:

Originally posted by zero:

cant you just refuse several times and have him ♥♥♥♥ off?

Read the original post - if you continue to refuse him, he will steal from you.

yeah i read that i just thought it was incorrect, but ill take your word for it cause i dont remember what i did to make him leave.

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Originally posted by ketaro_su:

Honestly magic items are pretty dirt cheap in this game. Toss him a green item like you would a dog a bone. Gale is literally as easy to please as a dog. What're you losing? ~60 gp? Toss the boy a bone, call him a good boy, and send him back out their to die for you.


All it takes is a change in perspective, not a change of morals.

Role play. There is only one way my selfish evil prone-to-slaughter Dark Urge protagonist would react to Gale's combination of insolent demands and proud secrecy - gutting and beheading, not in any particular order. Sadly, that leads to game over, so I am looking for a complete map of possible choices and outcomes regarding Gale.

Originally posted by Mike Honcho:

If you're playing evil you don't need to worry about money since you can just have Astarion steal them from vendors.

Sure, my Astarion is clearing inventory of all vendors before each long rest - it is not that I cannot afford to feed Gale. I just do not like his attitude and do not wish to help him, at least not on my evil playthrough. I might be more tolerant and understanding next time playing some little goody two shoes.

[moralitis]

ye, if it wasn't for gale annoying me from the get go in early access I would probably give him a chance and pull him out on other playthroughs, same reason I kill astarion as soon as I see him I guess

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Originally posted by moralitis:

ye, if it wasn't for gale annoying me from the get go in early access I would probably give him a chance and pull him out on other playthroughs, same reason I kill astarion as soon as I see him I guess

Well, Astarion at least won't game-over you if you refuse to be the blood donor.

[HoneyDrake]

Elminster seems to find a fix for his condition.

Also there seems to be an special interaction if you talk to him while being in a good relationship with him, after the hag fight. He seems to have found a new solution and it includes raphael.

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Originally posted by Honey Drake:

Elminster seems to find a fix for his condition.

Also there seems to be an special interaction if you talk to him while being in a good relationship with him, after the hag fight. He seems to have found a new solution and it includes raphael.

The encounter with Elminster is mentioned in the oriignal post - it happens after you feed Gale several items and then agree to help him further. Elminster brings a message from Mystra for Gale to destroy the heart of Absolute.

Raphael line is likely the one leading to getting Netherese Crown - Raphael is more or less involved in that, but it happens much later.