Noticed something odd.

[Sandalius]

I know people will get mad at me for saying this. I won't say it really bothers me, but it is just strange. First off, why are all the dwarf NPCs shaved? The beard was a BIG DEAL in their culture in Faerun. The other thing is every NPC I talked with that is married, is gay. Are there just no more straight couples? The only NPC straight couple I found is a brother and sister incest couple in the brothel. This just confuses me a bit, but the acceptable incest thing is creepy.

[Xiwang]

dnd community is basically almost all lgbt, try to ignore that.

[Runic Tunic]

I imagine it's to help make Dwarves look more unique from each other. There's not many beard options and many use the same faces available to the MC, unfortunately. There's actually a mod out now that gives all dwarves beards, and though I def prefer them with beards, they do kinda start looking the same.

As for the marriage stuff, I think that might be selective bias. There's definitely several gay couples in the game, but there are many straight ones too. Off the top of my head tons of implied straight relationships are mentioned in letters we find on enemies, victims, etc. in addition to the ones we actually see in person.

EDIT; Incest thing I think is mostly with the Drow stuff, which is lore supported.

[똑똑한]

If you're talking about Duergar, they're almost always depicted bald, both men and women, it's just their thing.

Re gay thing, yeah, it can feel a little silly at points.

Re incest, there's two things, first it is beyond acceptable to the point of being common or encouraged in the Forgotten Realms per Ed Greenwood (creator), and, second, they're drow and they actually remark that they're not doing anything with each other (drow incest has been a thing in the books for a longggg time). Honestly, there's a whole lot of weird ♥♥♥♥ in the setting that Wizard of the Coast tries to gloss over (ie "festhalls" are actually brothels, normal town events/temple rituals just being a pretext for orgies, Alustriel, an elf queen, canonically getting a train run on her on the daily to build loyalty with the nobility) but per contract it's Greenwood's setting and WotC can't contradict him directly.

[Estevan Valladares]

Originally posted by Xiwang:

dnd community is basically almost all lgbt, try to ignore that.

That is stupid. IT is true that the LGBT presence in most communities that deal with fantasy, scifi, arts in general, and coding (for some reason) is high, just like in politics and diplomacy.

But saying "basically almost all" is nonsense in itself (basically almost all ?), as what probably you meant by that is stupid.

I have played DnD for almost 30 years, and to this day I still cant relay that even "50%" might be.

About the actual "verifiable fact", cherry picking and p-tempering is a thing even in science, but, you have the parents of Arabella, you have the conversations with at least 7 tiefilings saying something to the effect of having a hetero relationship, you have Shadowheart's parents, you have Orin's parents, you have Minthara parents, and you have the most known couple for all the game, Ketheric and his wife.

There are a whole lot of hetero couples, but when someone wants to make a point like those click bait YT videos using "have you noticed this" ... bla bla.

But yeah, no. Bullocs.

[Censuur]

You should probably try playing the game with your eyes open. The most prominent couple in the game is a pair of tieflings that show up quite clearly in both act 1 and 2. Ethel's questline revolves around a normal couple where the husband had died and the wife is trying to get them resurrected. I could go on but at this point I question whether this thread is even genuine or just more thinly veiled anti-LGBT nonsense given how you've somehow missed some pretty prominent characters only to claim some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about only the married people being gay.

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by Censuur:

You should probably try playing the game with your eyes open. The most prominent couple in the game is a pair of tieflings that show up quite clearly in both act 1 and 2. Ethel's questline revolves around a normal couple where the husband had died and the wife is trying to get them resurrected. I could go on but at this point I question whether this thread is even genuine or just more thinly veiled anti-LGBT nonsense given how you've somehow missed some pretty prominent characters only to claim some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about only the married people being gay.

There's also Arabella's parents.

And the relationship between Lenore and Yrre, though I don't think it's technically ever been confirmed what gender Yrre is/was.

[Don't kill me]

Originally posted by Censuur:

You should probably try playing the game with your eyes open. The most prominent couple in the game is a pair of tieflings that show up quite clearly in both act 1 and 2. Ethel's questline revolves around a normal couple where the husband had died and the wife is trying to get them resurrected. I could go on but at this point I question whether this thread is even genuine or just more thinly veiled anti-LGBT nonsense given how you've somehow missed some pretty prominent characters only to claim some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about only the married people being gay.

I'm not politically leaning in any direction, but OP may have a point.
Off the top of my head, all the gay couples are perfectly content with one another. The only hardships they may be enduring is from external forces.
The straight couples are more often than not conflicting with one another, in an abusive relationship, or one is dead.
I wasn't even aware that those Tieflings were a couple until you mentioned it. As for them being prominent; I would be so bold as to say that they aren't prominent at all, as they aren't quest givers and only have a few throw away lines. Perhaps they give a quest in act II? I'm not sure. If they do then I stand corrected. The Tieflings that found Laz'el?

[Don't kill me]

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

Originally posted by Xiwang:

dnd community is basically almost all lgbt, try to ignore that.

That is stupid. IT is true that the LGBT presence in most communities that deal with fantasy, scifi, arts in general, and coding (for some reason) is high, just like in politics and diplomacy.

There are interesting trends that are made between porn addiction and how it leads to certain fetishes. Porn addiction "mostly" afflicts those that are stuck behind a computer and seldom socialise. I could understand how a lot of coders may fall under that bracket

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by Don't kill me:

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

That is stupid. IT is true that the LGBT presence in most communities that deal with fantasy, scifi, arts in general, and coding (for some reason) is high, just like in politics and diplomacy.

There are interesting trends that are made between porn addiction and how it leads to certain fetishes. Porn addiction "mostly" afflicts those that are stuck behind a computer and seldom socialise. I could understand how a lot of coders may fall under that bracket :cactuar:

Ok, as someone who studied psych, including paraphilia, for a literal decade, this isn't true and you're generalizing on an astronomical degree. By your logic, since introverts tend to have the highest rates of being online and not socializing, they would have a higher rate of having fetishes and porn addiction...but its often the opposite:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336048906_Problematic_Pornography_Viewing_from_a_Big-5_Personality_Perspective

https://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/addiction/personality-traits-online-pornography-use-among-lebanese-adults/


Plus, these are two different things anyway. Extreme fetishes are often from trauma or excessive repression/suppression. Porn addiction is a combination of addiction and avoidance coping strategies. One does not translate to the other and vice versa. And neither have ANYTHING to do with sexual orientation. The fact there are gay couples in a game has nothing to do with porn addiction or fetishes.

[Don't kill me]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Originally posted by Don't kill me:

There are interesting trends that are made between porn addiction and how it leads to certain fetishes. Porn addiction "mostly" afflicts those that are stuck behind a computer and seldom socialise. I could understand how a lot of coders may fall under that bracket

Ok, as someone who studied psych, including paraphilia, for a literal decade, this isn't true and you're generalizing on an astronomical degree. By your logic, since introverts tend to have the highest rates of being online and not socializing, they would have a higher rate of having fetishes and porn addiction...but its often the opposite:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336048906_Problematic_Pornography_Viewing_from_a_Big-5_Personality_Perspective

https://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/addiction/personality-traits-online-pornography-use-among-lebanese-adults/


Plus, these are two different things anyway. Extreme fetishes are often from trauma or excessive repression/suppression. Porn addiction is a combination of addiction and avoidance coping strategies. One does not translate to the other and vice versa. And neither have ANYTHING to do with sexual orientation. The fact there are gay couples in a game has nothing to do with porn addiction or fetishes.

Ooo that will make for an interesting read.
I should probably have made a note that I was pulling that out of my a$$ about the trends. Trying to be humorous
I know nothing of psychology; but it's cool you have an understanding of it. Thank you my man!

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by Don't kill me:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

Ok, as someone who studied psych, including paraphilia, for a literal decade, this isn't true and you're generalizing on an astronomical degree. By your logic, since introverts tend to have the highest rates of being online and not socializing, they would have a higher rate of having fetishes and porn addiction...but its often the opposite:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336048906_Problematic_Pornography_Viewing_from_a_Big-5_Personality_Perspective

https://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/addiction/personality-traits-online-pornography-use-among-lebanese-adults/


Plus, these are two different things anyway. Extreme fetishes are often from trauma or excessive repression/suppression. Porn addiction is a combination of addiction and avoidance coping strategies. One does not translate to the other and vice versa. And neither have ANYTHING to do with sexual orientation. The fact there are gay couples in a game has nothing to do with porn addiction or fetishes.

Ooo that will make for an interesting read.
I should probably have made a note that I was pulling that out of my a$$ about the trends. Trying to be humorous :portiapoop:
I know nothing of psychology; but it's cool you have an understanding of it. Thank you my man!

If you are indeed being sincere, then I'm happy to help. It's hard to tell the candidness of people on here sometimes.

The subject itself is rather complex. The underlying issue isn't so much one's lifestyle per se (level of socializing, internet usage, etc.), but more the underlying factors. Like the evironment they are raised in, their trauma/hardships, social supports, and their internal acceptance and coping strategies.

It's kinda like the "games cause violence" debate from the older days. It's not that simple, and more often than not it doesn't make one more violent unless you were already predisposed to being violent to begin with.

[steelcoresoviet]

I will admit that I didn't notice a lot of shaved dwarves, but there are a few female dwarves with beards.

That's in line with at least some of the lore, although I'd think it'd be less common in human lands.

[Edstyles]

Originally posted by Don't kill me:

Originally posted by Censuur:

You should probably try playing the game with your eyes open. The most prominent couple in the game is a pair of tieflings that show up quite clearly in both act 1 and 2. Ethel's questline revolves around a normal couple where the husband had died and the wife is trying to get them resurrected. I could go on but at this point I question whether this thread is even genuine or just more thinly veiled anti-LGBT nonsense given how you've somehow missed some pretty prominent characters only to claim some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about only the married people being gay.

I'm not politically leaning in any direction, but OP may have a point.
Off the top of my head, all the gay couples are perfectly content with one another. The only hardships they may be enduring is from external forces.
The straight couples are more often than not conflicting with one another, in an abusive relationship, or one is dead.
I wasn't even aware that those Tieflings were a couple until you mentioned it. As for them being prominent; I would be so bold as to say that they aren't prominent at all, as they aren't quest givers and only have a few throw away lines. Perhaps they give a quest in act II? I'm not sure. If they do then I stand corrected. The Tieflings that found Laz'el?

Yeah noticed it too. Not for all of them ofc but enough to be weird.
in act 3 in particular there is a couple in the elf tavern which i wont spoilt but is very strange.

[Mirri]

Originally posted by Don't kill me:

Originally posted by Censuur:

You should probably try playing the game with your eyes open. The most prominent couple in the game is a pair of tieflings that show up quite clearly in both act 1 and 2. Ethel's questline revolves around a normal couple where the husband had died and the wife is trying to get them resurrected. I could go on but at this point I question whether this thread is even genuine or just more thinly veiled anti-LGBT nonsense given how you've somehow missed some pretty prominent characters only to claim some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about only the married people being gay.

I'm not politically leaning in any direction, but OP may have a point.
Off the top of my head, all the gay couples are perfectly content with one another. The only hardships they may be enduring is from external forces.
The straight couples are more often than not conflicting with one another, in an abusive relationship, or one is dead.
I wasn't even aware that those Tieflings were a couple until you mentioned it. As for them being prominent; I would be so bold as to say that they aren't prominent at all, as they aren't quest givers and only have a few throw away lines. Perhaps they give a quest in act II? I'm not sure. If they do then I stand corrected. The Tieflings that found Laz'el?

I think they are referring to the tiefling parents you meet in the grove. You don't have to talk to them, but they are prominent in that they are impossible to avoid because of a cut scene. They do have a quest string attached.

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by steelcoresoviet:

I will admit that I didn't notice a lot of shaved dwarves, but there are a few female dwarves with beards.

That's in line with at least some of the lore, although I'd think it'd be less common in human lands.

Honestly the whole female dwarf with beard thing is so touch and go in the lore. Some mentions it, others don't, some distinguish it as only being common in certain locations, others paint it as a general thing.

I think Larian kinda just went with whatever they felt was more appropriate, especially since we see them so infrequently anyway.