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Difficulty Tactician disadvantage?
EDIT: its only on dopplegangers and it only applies to ranged attacks, it's not technically from Tactician Difficulty its from a buff they get that they only get in tactician difficulty but you can't remove or dispel it. Once you deal with the dopplegangers the rest of the enemies in act 3 don't seem to have it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029464308

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029465854
Last edited by Grumpy Old Guy; Sep 1, 2023 @ 11:21pm
Originally posted by Celebrim:
I thought I saw this answered, but the Doppelgangers in Act 3 have an ability called Mindreader which gives disadvantage vs ranged attacks. It does appear to be labelled as "Tactician" in the quick view at the top. I've only played Tactician, but as others have mentioned it is probably because it is a extra ability given to them on Tactician mode. I haven't played tabletop 5E but this is probably a tactical implementation of the Detect Thoughts ability they had in 3/3.5 so for them it makes some sense lore-wise.

Grumpy Old Guy,
If you are seeing it on creatures other than doppelgangers, let us know which ones. I haven't see an across the board permanent disadvantage ability on any enemies I've faced, but I haven't finished the Act yet.
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TripSin Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:02pm 
It's not a thing. Also, you're experiencing a skill issue. Many people find tactician too easy. If you can't handle it or don't like it for whatever reasons, change it to balanced.
Last edited by TripSin; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:02pm
sick duck Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:07pm 
Originally posted by TripSin:
It's not a thing. Also, you're experiencing a skill issue. Many people find tactician too easy. If you can't handle it or don't like it for whatever reasons, change it to balanced.

That's pretty hillarious coming from the master brain whose first assumption was that I'm a pirate rather than a person who owns the game on GOG rather than steam. There are only about 6 other launchers that are commonly used for PC gaming after all.
Last edited by sick duck; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:08pm
TripSin Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:08pm 
I think you may be possibly confusing the increased AC for advantage. This is, like I said, a tactical skill issue. If you're playing on tactician you should be checking and reading about the various status effects that are effecting units. You could also easily check any of the attack rolls to see that enemies aren't getting advantage just from being on tactician.
Grumpy Old Guy Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by TripSin:
It's not a thing. Also, you're experiencing a skill issue. Many people find tactician too easy. If you can't handle it or don't like it for whatever reasons, change it to balanced.

I never said it was hard, I said that's a lame way to spike difficulty. If you want to counter my point counter it but don't straw-man me.

Also nice outing yourself as not being as far as I am on said difficulty because if you'd played that far you'd know it literally tells you when you have disadvantage and why. Just because you're not good enough to reach this point doesn't mean I'm not.
Last edited by Grumpy Old Guy; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:09pm
TripSin Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:
Originally posted by TripSin:
It's not a thing. Also, you're experiencing a skill issue. Many people find tactician too easy. If you can't handle it or don't like it for whatever reasons, change it to balanced.

I never said it was hard, I said that's a lame way to spike difficulty. If you want to counter my point counter it but don't straw-man me.

You literally claim its "Doubling my chances of crit failure and making the enemies functionally immune to my crits". You are factually incorrect. You are factually ignorant of what is happening in the game. Being unable to figure things like this out in a strategy game is a skill issue.
Last edited by TripSin; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:11pm
Fluff Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:11pm 
As TripSin mentioned, there is no disadvantage or advatage cominig from Tactician difficulty.

Enemies can have more hp or higher defense for obvious reasons. There can be more or less enemies here there. Or they can use their spells smarter, focus targets better and behave differently. They can cast spells on you that impose disadvantage if you fail your saves and ignore them without removing debuffs, or impose dazzle on you, prone and so on.

But you don't have auto-disadvantage in any way on anything.


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May be if OP was less of a kid and spent 1 minute googling or listening to what people answer him here - he would save himself and other a lot of time.

I found it weird too, but reading through their passives, those shapeshifters have a passive called Mindreader, that reads "Ranged attacks have Disadvantage against this creature.". I'd guess it's a passive they only have in Tactician Mode, so that's why it says "Difficulty: Tactician" in the tooltip. I'd prefer if it just said "Mindreader" instead to avoid confusion, regardless if it's a Tactician Mode only passive or not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15qdyc8/difficulty_tactician_disadvantage_on_attacks/
Last edited by Fluff; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:22pm
Grumpy Old Guy Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by TripSin:
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

I never said it was hard, I said that's a lame way to spike difficulty. If you want to counter my point counter it but don't straw-man me.

You literally claim its "Doubling my chances of crit failure and making the enemies functionally immune to my crits". You are factually incorrect. You are factually ignorant of what is happening in the game. Being unable to figure things like this out in a strategy game is a skill issue.

You're an idiot who doesn't understand math and clearly hasn't gotten to this point yet.
Disadvantage literally doubles your chances of rolling a 1 and makes your odds of rolling a nat 20 go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400. If you graduated high school you'd know that.
TripSin Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:15pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:
Originally posted by TripSin:

You literally claim its "Doubling my chances of crit failure and making the enemies functionally immune to my crits". You are factually incorrect. You are factually ignorant of what is happening in the game. Being unable to figure things like this out in a strategy game is a skill issue.

You're an idiot who doesn't understand math and clearly hasn't gotten to this point yet.
Disadvantage literally doubles your chances of rolling a 1 and makes your odds of rolling a nat 20 go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400. If you graduated high school you'd know that.

I already beat the game. I played 95% of it on tactician, only lowering it for fights where I wanted an easier time to keep NPCs alive. I found it not challenging enough and wished there was an even higher difficulty mode with even higher AC values for enemies and more lethality from enemies.

It's ironic that you insult me calling me an idiot when you're the one who can't even understand the game lmao.
Last edited by TripSin; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:16pm
Grumpy Old Guy Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:15pm 
Originally posted by TripSin:
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

You're an idiot who doesn't understand math and clearly hasn't gotten to this point yet.
Disadvantage literally doubles your chances of rolling a 1 and makes your odds of rolling a nat 20 go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400. If you graduated high school you'd know that.

I already beat the game. I played 95% of it on tactician, only lowering it for fights where I wanted an easier time to keep NPCs alive. I found it not challenging enough.

It's ironic that you insult me calling me an idiot when you're the one who can't even understand the game lmao.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029464308

Ahem. No, please keep outing yourself as a liar go ahead.
Last edited by Grumpy Old Guy; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:17pm
sick duck Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:
Originally posted by TripSin:

You literally claim its "Doubling my chances of crit failure and making the enemies functionally immune to my crits". You are factually incorrect. You are factually ignorant of what is happening in the game. Being unable to figure things like this out in a strategy game is a skill issue.

You're an idiot who doesn't understand math and clearly hasn't gotten to this point yet.
Disadvantage literally doubles your chances of rolling a 1 and makes your odds of rolling a nat 20 go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400. If you graduated high school you'd know that.

...why do you get two chances to roll a 1 but not a 20?
TripSin Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:17pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:
Originally posted by TripSin:

I already beat the game. I played 95% of it on tactician, only lowering it for fights where I wanted an easier time to keep NPCs alive. I found it not challenging enough.

It's ironic that you insult me calling me an idiot when you're the one who can't even understand the game lmao.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2044125897281231291/5EFC12E7028F82205052FD7424C5B1694D61A018/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

Ahem.

Check the attack roll
Grumpy Old Guy Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by sick duck:
Originally posted by Grumpy Old Guy:

You're an idiot who doesn't understand math and clearly hasn't gotten to this point yet.
Disadvantage literally doubles your chances of rolling a 1 and makes your odds of rolling a nat 20 go from 1 in 20 to 1 in 400. If you graduated high school you'd know that.

...why do you get two chances to roll a 1 but not a 20?
Because that's how disadvantage works... roll twice and take the worse number.
Maraxus Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
You get disadvantage vs some enemies in Act 3, not sure if this is intentional or an oversight... i wonder if this was always intended but changed and some enemies remained like this.
Forblaze Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
I was equally confused when I saw this. It seems to be a specific buff that those shapeshifters have on Tactician. It should only be for ranged attacks.
Last edited by Forblaze; Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:19pm
Fluff Sep 1, 2023 @ 7:21pm 
May be if OP was less of a kid and spent 1 minute googling or listening to what people answer him here - he would save himself and other a lot of time.

I found it weird too, but reading through their passives, those shapeshifters have a passive called Mindreader, that reads "Ranged attacks have Disadvantage against this creature.". I'd guess it's a passive they only have in Tactician Mode, so that's why it says "Difficulty: Tactician" in the tooltip. I'd prefer if it just said "Mindreader" instead to avoid confusion, regardless if it's a Tactician Mode only passive or not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15qdyc8/difficulty_tactician_disadvantage_on_attacks/
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