Is this game an anomaly or do people like cRPGs now?

[Coffee Break Hero]

I think this game sold/will sell at least 10 times more than the last big cRPGs combined...
I wonder if after people whom this is their first cRPG play this they go play other cRPGs, or do they go back to play action-adventure 3rd person games?

Are we going to see a glorious age of "BG3-likes" with lots of choices and customizations and consequences (like all the "souls like" of the past decade) or is this a false prophecy?

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by bcursor:

Originally posted by sleeper:

yeah lets blame EA for that not bioware for wanting and accepting to be bought by EA

yes. bioware was famous for making excellent rpgs. they made great rpgs after ea bought them. ea rewarded them by forcing them to make a "destiny" game.

Honestly the old bioware could have made anthem with actually interesting world/characters and a ton of character customization and RPG decision making and stuff instead of a game that feels like it was made by someone making their first cookies and following a recipe

[ACS36]

It's not an anomaly.

People are buying and playing more games than ever before in human history. Pen and Paper D&D has been on the rise over the past decade due to streaming bringing it into peoples homes. It's easy to see why the game was a success. There isn't much to wonder about here. Gamers try every type of game now. They don't necessarily stick to specific genres. They want to be apart of what's popular.

What's really head scratching is the developing studio didn't realize what they had with BG3. They thought the game peaked in early access and were surprised it did this well on launch. They were even making comments about taking breaks and moving back to divinity sin. They said that the D&D rules were too hard to developing games for. Despite spending six years building a foundation for making games with those rules.

It would be a finical mistake for the studio to abandon further BG or D&D projects. Nobody cares about divinity sin by comparison. The demand for divinity sin is way lower.

[Ranpo]

When they use the term CRPG, its not referring to Dragon Age or Skyrim, more like Pillars of Eternity, DOS2 and BG3.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Ranpo:

When they use the term CRPG, its not referring to Dragon Age or Skyrim, more like Pillars of Eternity, DOS2 and BG3.

It's not referring to Skyrim, but it is referring to Dragon Age, even Inquisition like it or not.

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by ACS36:

It's not an anomaly.

People are buying and playing more games than ever before in human history. Pen and Paper D&D has been on the rise over the past decade due to streaming bringing it into peoples homes. It's easy to see why the game was a success. There isn't much to wonder about here. Gamers try every type of game now. They don't necessarily stick to specific genres. They want to be apart of what's popular.

What's really head scratching is the developing studio didn't realize what they had with BG3. They thought the game peaked in early access and were surprised it did this well on launch. They were even making comments about taking breaks and moving back to divinity sin. They said that the D&D rules were too hard to developing games for. Despite spending six years building a foundation for making games with those rules.

It would be a finical mistake for the studio to abandon further BG or D&D projects. Nobody cares about divinity sin by comparison. The demand for divinity sin is way lower.

Honestly I don't particularly care about DnD either, but a good RPG is a good RPG :)
Would much prefer a great WoD game, or something SciFi made by people that are passionate about science and roleplaying.

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Originally posted by Ranpo:

When they use the term CRPG, its not referring to Dragon Age or Skyrim, more like Pillars of Eternity, DOS2 and BG3.

It's not referring to Skyrim, but it is referring to Dragon Age, even Inquisition like it or not.

It depends on whose doing the referring. But it's 100% a quantitative thing. Some things are more RPG than other things. It's not yes/no. DA is definitely more RPG than skyrim (and more cRPG too, or more similar to cRPG depending on your definition)

[Destroyner]

According to the peer reviewed polls I've seen, cRPG players have risen to the top as the most attractive and intelligent demographic and game studios will likely cater to them more.

[Rex is back, baby!]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

I think this game sold/will sell at least 10 times more than the last big cRPGs combined...
I wonder if after people whom this is their first cRPG play this they go play other cRPGs, or do they go back to play action-adventure 3rd person games?

Are we going to see a glorious age of "BG3-likes" with lots of choices and customizations and consequences (like all the "souls like" of the past decade) or is this a false prophecy?

CRPGs have always been a niche game. Often, the developers of this game do it out of passion and not for profit.

BG3 will introduce the younger generation to this genre, yes, and hopefully become the gateway toward other CRPGS.

That's why I don't mind the easy difficulty. It's a CRPG with training wheels to enable newcomers into this genre. This genre really needed some life breathed on it!

[✙205🍉🐆→]

Originally posted by agentkido:

Originally posted by Lunar Fang:

I can't wait for the porn games like cyberpunk had, but Baldur's Sex 3.

Why do we need porn games when u can just ♥♥♥♥ in bg3 lol

BG3 doesn't disclose 100% of the money spent on actors, better than The Witcher 3/cyberpunk but still worse than the Japanese voice acting

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by Destroyner:

According to the peer reviewed polls I've seen, cRPG players have risen to the top as the most attractive and intelligent demographic and game studios will likely cater to them more.

I, too, have a very large penis.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Destroyner:

According to the peer reviewed polls I've seen, cRPG players have risen to the top as the most attractive and intelligent demographic and game studios will likely cater to them more.

That has always been true. As modest as we've tried to be over the years, the truth was bound to come out eventually.

[Rex is back, baby!]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

Originally posted by Destroyner:

According to the peer reviewed polls I've seen, cRPG players have risen to the top as the most attractive and intelligent demographic and game studios will likely cater to them more.

I, too, have a very large penis.

You're either big brained or big phallic, can't have both, sadly. Those who DO have both are an anomaly.

[★REM★]

people always liked cRPG, i don't understand your point

[FoxFox]

It is an anomaly in that nobody in the industry expected it to be this successful. I don't believe people ever stopped loving cRPGs. It's just that after Dragon Age 1 EA/Bioware basically killed the genre by slaughtering the DA franchise for cRPG fans.

And I kind of blame Bethesda for buying Fallout and turning it into a Bethesda game. I do like Bethesda games, but I still feel they helped kill the genre.

[Caelib]

Larian made a game like games used to be made, back in the days of pre-2010: rich with content and well-polilshed. In today's market, the VALUE in the eyes of gamers is significant when you have studios charging top dollar for a game that only have 20 hours of single-player story/gameplay and virtually no replayability.

This is why other devs are concerned by Larian's success - it raises the bar to a level they cannot or do not want to achieve.

The simple truth of the matter is gamer's want a good/fun game that they can play for a very long time. This is why Skyrim was so successful - it can be played for years!