Is minthara worth an evil playthrough ?

[Tony]

Hello,

question in the title is minthara worth it as a companion ?
does she has an interristing quest / banter ? can you romance her ?
is it worth slauthering the druid / tieffeling ?

thank you !

[dexter]

Originally posted by Scrubwave:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Well, the more players that hold quests you remove from the table, the less quests you end up with.

Again, why is that? Why is the only "evil path" larian could come up with a basic murderhobo?

I mean, it's the same as the 'good' playthrough. You either kill goblins and all absolute people or you kill the good guys. It just changes who you're killing

[Shadow Wizard Money Gang]

Originally posted by Scrubwave:

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Ask them? Just calling it as I see it.

I'll call you as I see it too- a horrible devil's advocate.

Don't engage. Hes a forum troll who only likes to antagonize people who criticize the game

[Scrubwave]

Originally posted by dexter:

Originally posted by Scrubwave:

Again, why is that? Why is the only "evil path" larian could come up with a basic murderhobo?

I mean, it's the same as the 'good' playthrough. You either kill goblins and all absolute people or you kill the good guys. It just changes who you're killing

No, it's not the same at all. Judging by the amount of content one side has over the other.

[Shadow Wizard Money Gang]

Originally posted by dexter:

Originally posted by Scrubwave:

Again, why is that? Why is the only "evil path" larian could come up with a basic murderhobo?

I mean, it's the same as the 'good' playthrough. You either kill goblins and all absolute people or you kill the good guys. It just changes who you're killing

Larians writing stops when the sex scenes end. No matter what alignment you play as you are essentially a murder hobo. Every problem is fixed through violence and Larian refused to program or develop alternative paths. Why would you when its just easier to kill everything in sight

[zpc]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

What makes me nervous is all the evil consequences like killing Nightsong, Isobel, and Last Light Inn members

BG2 till this day is one of the best games for an evil playthrough. It seems extremely disadvantageous to do one in BG3, but I haven't yet.

This is kind of a huge spoiler so use at your own discretion There is no "evil" path in the game. You can at any point of the game behave "evil" or not. Companions react, but don't define your path. Minthara also isn't a 1/0 evil character. She e.g. approves if you end the suffering of victims. In fact you can play the "good game" with her - it's only the "recruiting quest" of her which might be a bit evil. But you can opt out and just don't resolve the druid/tiefling situation. The game then considers the Tieflings dead - but you had no active part in it. Thus you won't loose companions (Wyll, Karlach) and you can rescue Minthara (given you don't met her / killed her - being neutral means: do everything in act 1 besides the grove story, then leave for act 2). You won't get Halsin as the devs want him and Minthara to be mutual exclusive. Other then that you can be goody two-shoes in act 2. Rescue Nightsong, bring Shadowheart back to her original faith, fight every evil you can get your hands on.

[CloudKira]

She needs the bugs that prevent access to her content fixed and most likely a update content expansion for her to be truly worth losing everything (companions, quests, gifts) that you lose by taking her side.

Halsin is greatly involved in Act 2 in the remove the curse of the shadowlands quest. Even though he is not an origin character.

Minthara? She gets no character quest nor is she deeply involved in any major quest I think.

If at least her pregnancy and bond with Tav was expanded for a satisfying romance (perhaps becoming a Lady Mackbeth to an evil Tav or/and Dark Urge) then at least taking her side would not seem as pointless as it does right now.

In fact all evil quest options give far lesser rewards than doing the heroic thing. Maybe its just Larian not wanting players to be evil so as to not set a bad example in RL but this is just a game and its not meant to be taken seriously. I doubt anyone (even a kid) will turn bad if the evil choices in the game are awarded in any significant way.

Ironically it was the same in BG2 where completing quests as a jerk/villains gave far lesser rewards both in terms of EXP gain and material rewards (gold, items, equipment, etc).

[kgmi]

Originally posted by wei270:

honest i think minthara is the better companion compare to helson. and well there is no major event with her after act 2, her limited interaction are surprisingly wholesome, laurian made it work much better than expected given, a full evil companion.

however the problem is you get so much out of the good guy run if you get her as companion you simply lose too much content.

Minthara actually changes her views on things as the game progresses, Halsin just bear sexes Uranus and that all his character, he never says anything new.

[Shadow Wizard Money Gang]

Originally posted by kgmi:

Originally posted by wei270:

honest i think minthara is the better companion compare to helson. and well there is no major event with her after act 2, her limited interaction are surprisingly wholesome, laurian made it work much better than expected given, a full evil companion.

however the problem is you get so much out of the good guy run if you get her as companion you simply lose too much content.

Minthara actually changes her views on things as the game progresses, Halsin just bear sexes Uranus and that all his character, he never says anything new.

And he breaks the curse in the shadow lands (however that entire questline is so tedious and boring and lame I actually perfer the curse to stay)

[DragonSoundxSG]

Originally posted by ꧁Ƭєηgєη꧂:

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

What makes me nervous is all the evil consequences like killing Nightsong, Isobel, and Last Light Inn members

BG2 till this day is one of the best games for an evil playthrough. It seems extremely disadvantageous to do one in BG3, but I haven't yet.

There are no consequences for what you mentioned. Last light inn members only matter if you kill Isobel before completing the like 2 quests contained within. Jahera will survive if you keep her alive, and all of the other NPCs are just fodder. The only true consequence of killing the nightsong will be not having her help in the final battle (she is weak af anyways) and forcing Shadowheart down the dark path (which is way more fun and has more utility anyways imo)

BG3 does not do a great job of punishing you for being evil. Just completed my Dark Urge playthrough and the lack of changes were frustrating to say the least. Aside from killing people in unique ways theres not much difference being good or bad

Interesting. I read Jahieria dies tho.

[Banelord]

she sounds a bit liek an evil catherine janeway. i dont think the dialogue is polished or finished tho

[Shadow Wizard Money Gang]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

Originally posted by ꧁Ƭєηgєη꧂:

There are no consequences for what you mentioned. Last light inn members only matter if you kill Isobel before completing the like 2 quests contained within. Jahera will survive if you keep her alive, and all of the other NPCs are just fodder. The only true consequence of killing the nightsong will be not having her help in the final battle (she is weak af anyways) and forcing Shadowheart down the dark path (which is way more fun and has more utility anyways imo)

BG3 does not do a great job of punishing you for being evil. Just completed my Dark Urge playthrough and the lack of changes were frustrating to say the least. Aside from killing people in unique ways theres not much difference being good or bad

Interesting. I read Jahieria dies tho.

Nope. Just finished my Dark Urge playthough killing everyone in sight and she stayed alive until I became Bhalls chosen and murdered her and minsc. Shes alive until the very end of Act 3 or the end of the game if you want to kill all the Last Lighters.

[Scrubwave]

Originally posted by ꧁Ƭєηgєη꧂:

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

Interesting. I read Jahieria dies tho.

Nope. Just finished my Dark Urge playthough killing everyone in sight and she stayed alive until I became Bhalls chosen and murdered her and minsc. Shes alive until the very end of Act 3 or the end of the game if you want to kill all the Last Lighters.

Does that kill the tiefling blacksmith too?

[kgmi]

Originally posted by Scrubwave:

Originally posted by ꧁Ƭєηgєη꧂:

Nope. Just finished my Dark Urge playthough killing everyone in sight and she stayed alive until I became Bhalls chosen and murdered her and minsc. Shes alive until the very end of Act 3 or the end of the game if you want to kill all the Last Lighters.

Does that kill the tiefling blacksmith too?

Karlach will leave if you play evil anyway

[Rhett]

I like her dialogue a lot more than Halsin. Halsin felt very flat - but I can give them a pass since they added him last minute.

Minthara and her voice actress are both cool in my book. Arguable whether it's worth it given the other party members you have to give up (although I think you can somehow get Karlach?).

The annoying thing was that she wasn't all that grateful in A2, given everything you have to do to recruit her. Not sure if the romance is working better now (it was in the notes), but she started at.. neutral attitude, I think? I expected higher at base.

[𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

What makes me nervous is all the evil consequences like killing Nightsong, Isobel, and Last Light Inn members

BG2 till this day is one of the best games for an evil playthrough. It seems extremely disadvantageous to do one in BG3, but I haven't yet.

That’s why they put dark urge in the game, if you ain’t doin dark urge it seems like you’re practically forced to be a good guy