Why can't I twin spell HEX?

[Kalten76]

Hex isn't available to twin, I see no reason it shouldn't it's a single target spell.

[Zygfryd]

Concentration? (Haven't played a sorcerer though, not sure about the mechanics)

[TheBlueFox]

Probably because you can re-cast it if you defeat a hexed enemy, and that would be an issue as what happens if you kill both enemies? Do you get 2 recasts?

[Kelemdros]

Concentration spells, only one at a time, if you start another, loose concentration in the first one.

[ComradePreacher]

Does using twin spell from meta magic cost an bonus action? It could be that since Hex is a bonus action spell

Nvm Kelemdros beat me to it, can only concentrate on ONE spell at a time.

[Forblaze]

It's the ability to select a new target when the current one dies that makes it ineligible. This means that the spell is able to target more than one creature, even though it's not at the same time.

Similar spells like Telekinesis are also unable to be twinned.

It's NOT because of concentration.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Forblaze:

It's the ability to select a new target when the current one dies that makes it ineligible. This means that the spell is able to target more than one creature, even though it's not at the same time.

Similar spells like Telekinesis are also unable to be twinned.

It's NOT because of concentration.

Telekinesis is a consentration spell to. Sorry did not quite get the resoning.
Same as with hex, if you change target the consetration on the first hex will brake.

[Recjawjind]

Hex should absolutely be twin-able. If its not, something is wrong there yee.

[Forblaze]

Originally posted by Jack:

Telekinesis is a consentration spell to. Sorry did not quite get the resoning.
Same as with hex, if you change target the consetration on the first hex will brake.

A twinned spell is still just one spell. Twinned Haste, for example, works just fine.

[Jack]

Originally posted by Forblaze:

Originally posted by Jack:

Telekinesis is a consentration spell to. Sorry did not quite get the resoning.
Same as with hex, if you change target the consetration on the first hex will brake.

A twinned spell is still just one spell. Twinned Haste, for example, works just fine.

Ah, that explains a bit more, thanks.

[Jondar Korric]

Concentration Spells can be Twinned. Haste is Concentration, and can be twinned. spells that can be re-cast however like Witchbolt, Hunters Mark, and Hex can NOT be twinned.

[Drake]

What about class provenance. Is hex available to the sorcerer. If Hex is a warloick only spell, maybe twin spell doesn't work with it becasue it's not part of the sorcerer spellbook.
Check with hunger of hadar and see if it works.

[Forblaze]

Originally posted by Jondar Korric:

spells that can be re-cast

Just to add on to this, it's because you're not actually re-casting the spell. The spell has duration and the effect can trigger multiple times throughout the duration. For example, you can cast sunbeam, then have silence cast on you, then still continue to shoot sunbeams since the verbal component is only necessary for the initial casting.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Kelemdros:

Concentration spells, only one at a time, if you start another, loose concentration in the first one.

False. Twinned Spell does not cast a copy of a spell, it is not a second spell. It modifies a spell that has only a single target so that it now targets two.

How else do you think you cast and maintain Twinned Haste or Fly on two allies?

All single target spells, regardless of whether they are concentration based or not, are fair game for Twinned Spell and both targets should be maintained through concentration.

Here's a more esoteric question though: when both targets are dead, does the caster retain the ability to recast Hex at two targets, or just one?

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

False. Twinned Spell does not cast a copy of a spell, it is not a second spell. It modifies a spell that has only a single target so that it now targets two.

How else do you think you cast and maintain Twinned Haste or Fly on two allies?

All single target spells, regardless of whether they are concentration based or not, are fair game for Twinned Spell and both targets should be maintained through concentration.

Here's a more esoteric question though: when both targets are dead, does the caster retain the ability to recast Hex at two targets, or just one?

Just one.
"If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature."
Twinning does not modify anything about the spell other than being initially able to target 2 creatures.

[Forblaze]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Just one.
"If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to curse a new creature."
Twinning does not modify anything about the spell other than being initially able to target 2 creatures.

I agree it's ambiguous, but Jeremy Crawford has talked about this interaction and said that spells that can have new targets selected are not able to be Twinned.