How can I romance Origin Characters easier in Multiplayer?

[nkdi2211]

I am playing a campaign with my friend and trying to romance another Companion. It is really hard to get approval for them as a Guest in a multiplayer campaign. All the ending fight cutscene default to the host. The night time events that improve attitude only benefit to the host. I am almost at the end of act 1 and my approval with Shadowheart and Laezel, the two party teammate since the beginning is only at Neutral.

I want to experience a different romance from my own play through, and it's seemingly impossible. I am the party "spokeperson" too, as a Charismatic Sorcerer but it didn't help the rating. Is there a way to improve it? Or will there be a patch for Multiplayer?

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[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

I could be wrong but I think in order to start a romance you only need to get into the second stage of friendship with them (And don't make any deal breaking choices like destroying the druids grove for shadowheart.) so what I and my two other friends did is we took out one party member out at a time to do their act 1 questlines if they had any and pushed them to stage two then swapped out to the next and if anymore questlines came up we just swapped them out.

Just by doing that I think we unlocked everything, relation mostly effects skill checks when trying to persuade them to do things I think.

Also our method was if we knew a conversation would have lots of relation boosts we let the player who was romancing the companion lead the convo and if there are any checks we would just brute force them unless it was very difficult and in that case we swap out to our face. (The charisma Character)

[nkdi2211]

Originally posted by Pork-free Bacon (Michael):

Also our method was if we knew a conversation would have lots of relation boosts we let the player who was romancing the companion lead the convo and if there are any checks we would just brute force them unless it was very difficult and in that case we swap out to our face. (The charisma Character)

We are doing the same thing, I just hope it would be enough. Maybe it was because I was gunning for Shadowheart, and her companion quest isn't start till Act 2. I just wish the approval improvement work across team members, not just for the host alone.

[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

For shadowheart and some of the other romance options they have a very specific start time for her or their romance (The party after the druid grove defence) But I'm not 100% sure on that I'll update if I find anything that contradicts this

[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

Ah, I think you can also trigger it after the grove party if you talk to her and select I want to get to know you more > What drew you to shar > Tell me something about you besides shar and besides tadpoles

[nkdi2211]

Originally posted by Pork-free Bacon (Michael):

Ah, I think you can also trigger it after the grove party if you talk to her and select I want to get to know you more > What drew you to shar > Tell me something about you besides shar and besides tadpoles

In that game, Shadowheart is still at Neutral with me after the grove fight, and friendly with the host. Despite the host don't really interact with her at all to not contaminate the approval system. Those "getting to know her" options arent even appearing. I mean, I am in the party too, fighting next to her. but seem like the game treat the Multiplayer character like he doesn't exist in major cutscenes.

[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

Huh, that is strange then. I can't give you an example because I don't have my multiplayer saves but as you have probably put together the relations are supposed to be based on the player character has them in their little party and controls them in combat. (Just establishing this in case, you can assign a character to a player if you have the player you want to assign them to ask them to join the party, the person who currently is controlling them can also just drag shadowhearts portrait to yours to assign them to you.) (Player 1 Party: Player 1, Lae'zel and Shadowheart || Player 2: Player 2 ||
Player 1 makes a dialog to gain relation with their party members through open dialog, player 2 does not get the relation for that check)

So I'm guessing either you are not controlling shadowheart directly on the world map and your friend who is friendly with her is or you are having some sort of bug that makes your game see your other players as hirelings of sort and thus makes them unable to gain reputation, I'm kind of stumped in that regard and you may benefit from making a post in the technical difficulty tab if you don't find an answer soon

[Bloodwest]

The way multiplayer works you might as well give up on romance system while doing MP playthrough. When companion isn't under your control, your ability to influence relationships with them is very limited, you can't even talk to them. Most of the time they're essentially in camp while physically participating in combat by your side. Sometimes they may react to your dialogue choices but it's not enough, you should frequently chat with them.

[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

Originally posted by Bloodwest:

The way multiplayer works you might as well give up on romance system while doing MP playthrough. When companion isn't under your control, your ability to influence relationships with them is very limited, you can't even talk to them. Most of the time they're essentially in camp while physically participating in combat by your side. Sometimes they may react on your dialogue choices but it's not enough, you should frequently chat with them.

Not saying you are wrong because it can be a pain in the arse to balance it all in MP, but romance is not really that in dept in this game, once you do a major event such as a companion story stage it usually triggers the next stage of the relationship in most cases minor quests don't really effect it or dialog much and in that sense it does not take too much investment, we were able to do 2 romances in my 3 player play through and the third player could have probably done it too but they just did not want to

[Bloodwest]

Originally posted by Pork-free Bacon (Michael):

Not saying you are wrong because it can be a pain in the arse to balance it all in MP, but romance is not really that in dept in this game, once you do a major event such as a companion story stage it usually triggers the next stage of the relationship in most cases minor quests don't really effect it or dialog much and in that sense it does not take too much investment, we were able to do 2 romances in my 3 player play through and the third player could have probably done it too but they just did not want to

Tbh it wasn't my main focus but when I started another playthrough solo Lae'Zel invited me in like second long rest or so. And again romancing anyone wasn't my goal. Too bad for her I was roleplaying as evil DUrge character so I "helped" her to "prevent ceremorphosis" before we had intercourse

[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

A true Durge moment

[nkdi2211]

I am the one that actually control Shadowheart along with my character in the multiplayer game, and my friend control Lae'zel. I have neutral relationship with both Lae'zel(Whom I understand cuz I am not controlling her) and Shadowheart, (whom only I control and talked to). I just don't know if this is a feature or a bug at this point.

[Pork-free Bacon (Michael)]

Nah, definitely a bug in that case I would put this in the technical difficulty section on the steam forum and hope the devs can get it sorted soon

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