Jaheira?

[DontMisunderstand]

I don't understand why they created such an inherently unlikable character and present her as if she's not just an overtly evil ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that any morally upstanding character would kill at their earliest convenience... and then have Karlach fangirl over her as if Karlach didn't actively want to kill the exact kind of horrible evil creature she is. Am I missing something? The very first interaction you have with her is her seeing a group of innocent passersby and immediately threatening their lives while cutting off their escape, and upon being proven to be a piece of ♥♥♥♥ publicly when that information is revealed her next move is to try and have a ♥♥♥♥ measuring contest to save face? Like... the only difference between her and Kagha is that Kagha at least had reasonable and morally good motivations for the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ things she did. Jaheira's just evil for the sake of stroking her own ego, and for some reason the game doesn't seem to treat it that way.

Why is this piece of garbage treated so strangely by the game's narrative?

[Xeno Repo]

Cheaply done nostalgia bait.

[Rampant Luck]

Maybe I didn't have the same introduction you did, but she never seemed evil to me. A bit "kill first ask questions" later towards people with confirmed tadpoles in their head. Especially when 'true souls' desire a very important person in Light's Hope.

Then there's the thing you learn in act 3, basically she blames herself for letting the cult's plot advance as far as it did

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by Xeno Repo:

Cheaply done nostalgia bait.

Nostalgia?

[FreshRevenge]

I remember meeting her and she pissed me off so much that I went on a killing spree and kill everyone because the way she treated me.

Than I reloaded my quicksave and had to hold my anger.

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by The Azure:

Maybe I didn't have the same introduction you did, but she never seemed evil to me. A bit "kill first ask questions" later towards people with confirmed tadpoles in their head. Especially when 'true souls' desire a very important person in Light's Hope.

Then there's the thing you learn in act 3, basically she blames herself for letting the cult's plot advance as far as it did

This is interesting, but makes sense based on what I saw from the rest of the game... so your interactions with her change depending on how the story has gone, and the choices you make. Good RPG design, that.

[Lelo Mariin]

Jaheira evil? You're a fool to think so

[Xeno Repo]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Nostalgia?

Bro. You know that this is the THIRD game in a series, right?

[Col. Kurtz]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Originally posted by Xeno Repo:

Cheaply done nostalgia bait.

Nostalgia?

Yeah, Jaheira is from the other BG games.

[fox]

Because she sounds russian?

[Rabbit]

She's on a long list of NPCs that the player base gets irrationally offended by because she treats your character as a dangerous potential mindflayer and member of the absolute's cult (which you are as far as anyone would know until you prove otherwise)

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by Col. Kurtz:

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Nostalgia?

Yeah, Jaheira is from the other BG games.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer.

[Dera]

Idk she didn't come off that way to me. She is supposed to be a true neutral character though since that is her alignment in BG1 and 2.

She stops random strangers from entering to make sure they aren't true souls trying to trick their way in by "saving" a bunch of her people. Finds out we are true souls (as far as she knows. Remember 99% of people with the special magic tadpole are literally under the command of some weird fake god who can control you through the parasite), and at least place I explained why we were Different (tm) joked around about it a little bit, pointed out she was being silly by trying to give me truth serum and managed to get her to laugh.

We were pretty much besties after that and I feel like it was a pretty natural reaction to someone with a literal death sentence, time bomb, mind control device in their brain?

Maybe I'm the odd one out here though...

[Zoid13]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Originally posted by Xeno Repo:

Cheaply done nostalgia bait.

Nostalgia?

shes a half elf and a druid and very old and in the previous bg games. Minsc also being from previous BG games

[DontMisunderstand]

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

She's on a long list of NPCs that the player base gets irrationally offended by because she treats your character as a dangerous potential mindflayer and member of the absolute's cult (which you are as far as anyone would know until you prove otherwise)

I wasn't offended at that part. I was annoyed that the game continued to treat her as if she were someone worthy of respect after she displayed the inherently negative personality traits I described in my original post. Her actions didn't bother me. Her personality and the inappropriate response to it from the party did.

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

She's on a long list of NPCs that the player base gets irrationally offended by because she treats your character as a dangerous potential mindflayer and member of the absolute's cult (which you are as far as anyone would know until you prove otherwise)

I wasn't offended at that part. I was annoyed that the game continued to treat her as if she were someone worthy of respect after she displayed the inherently negative personality traits I described in my original post. Her actions didn't bother me. Her personality and the inappropriate response to it from the party did.

It sounds like you're the only person in the party that doesn't understand that what she did was common sense