Why would I ever pay an Oathbreaker?

[Goddamn Purple Cucumber]

In what world does it make sense that I fail two rolls, then I can only Kill a party member, or become an oathbreaker?

Also Why in the hell would I pay this weird edgy freak anything, you show up to my camp, call me a monster then demand money to redeem myself???

WHO EVEN ARE YOU?

Does anyone know if I can kill this guy? I've tried throwing him in chasms, shoving him, or even old fashion smackin, but either my party gets mad, or the game stops me.

I know this is something I could "fix" by save scumming, but I'm trying to roleplay, not do the most edge filled tone deaf run I could fathom.

It just annoys me, and I want to ask, if I can just boot this guy somehow and get my oath back? I'm not going to pay, edgy mc"original charactor donnut steel" 1000 gold.

I don't care if I have to do dumb bs, just I refuse to work with this guy.


TLDR: Can you kill Oathbreaker Knight, and get your oath back any other way?

[Dr.Shwarc]

You are an encyclopedic example of why not everyone can be a paladin.

[Divolg]

Have you tried never breaking your oath?

[DontMisunderstand]

Failing rolls does not make you an oathbreaker. Doing things that break your oath makes you an oathbreaker. There is always an option to not break your oath. You chose to break it, instead.

Why not just embrace the oathbreaker subclass? It kicks ass. It's a role playing game, get into your role and really just be that character. Do what they would do. Think like they would think. Speak like they would speak. RPGs aren't meant to be "won", they're meant to be experienced through the eyes of another; through the role you set out to play.

[[STD]Random Lead]

classic example of wanting to play own way instead of the dnd way. Game not for you op.

[Blood of Kerensky]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Failing rolls does not make you an oathbreaker. Doing things that break your oath makes you an oathbreaker. There is always an option to not break your oath. You chose to break it, instead.

Why not just embrace the oathbreaker subclass? It kicks ass. It's a role playing game, get into your role and really just be that character. Do what they would do. Think like they would think. Speak like they would speak. RPGs aren't meant to be "won", they're meant to be experienced through the eyes of another; through the role you set out to play.

ikr. Oathbreaker is dope.
I don't think OP ever played a TTRPG if they are not understanding the concept of their oath as a responsibility.

[Goddamn Purple Cucumber]

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Failing rolls does not make you an oathbreaker. Doing things that break your oath makes you an oathbreaker. There is always an option to not break your oath. You chose to break it, instead.

Why not just embrace the oathbreaker subclass? It kicks ass. It's a role playing game, get into your role and really just be that character. Do what they would do. Think like they would think. Speak like they would speak. RPGs aren't meant to be "won", they're meant to be experienced through the eyes of another; through the role you set out to play.

Look I don't care about winning anything, I don't care about any of that.

I think it's dumb, to pay some weird undead dude, thats painfully evil, 1000 gold to "regain my oath"

I just want to play my old oath.

[Lunar Shower]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Purple Cucumber:

In what world does it make sense that I fail two rolls, then I can only Kill a party member, or become an oathbreaker?

Also Why in the hell would I pay this weird edgy freak anything, you show up to my camp, call me a monster then demand money to redeem myself???

WHO EVEN ARE YOU?

Does anyone know if I can kill this guy? I've tried throwing him in chasms, shoving him, or even old fashion smackin, but either my party gets mad, or the game stops me.

I know this is something I could "fix" by save scumming, but I'm trying to roleplay, not do the most edge filled tone deaf run I could fathom.

It just annoys me, and I want to ask, if I can just boot this guy somehow and get my oath back? I'm not going to pay, edgy mc"original charactor donnut steel" 1000 gold.

I don't care if I have to do dumb bs, just I refuse to work with this guy.


TLDR: Can you kill Oathbreaker Knight, and get your oath back any other way?

Depends what Oath you took, maybe next time be more careful what Oath you take if you don't want to end up being forced to abide by its rules, though I'd need more details to know what even brought this on really.

Also, no, only way to redeem Oath far as I know is the Oathbreaker Knight, or, *maybe* to respec at Withers and retake your Oath that way. Either way its gonna cost you some gold and time for breaking it to begin with.

[Blanch Warren]

Spiteful Suffering might be a reasonable addition if you have anyone using Spellmight. Aura of Hate can also boost a Necromancer if you have one. As far as what amounts to an offensively oriented Blackguard, you could do a lot worse. The class looks specifically built to pair with a Mage.

[Coffee Addict]

sometimes you want the powers of a pally without the oath that binds them, otherwise your just a fighter

[Goddamn Purple Cucumber]

Originally posted by Blood of Kerensky:

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Failing rolls does not make you an oathbreaker. Doing things that break your oath makes you an oathbreaker. There is always an option to not break your oath. You chose to break it, instead.

Why not just embrace the oathbreaker subclass? It kicks ass. It's a role playing game, get into your role and really just be that character. Do what they would do. Think like they would think. Speak like they would speak. RPGs aren't meant to be "won", they're meant to be experienced through the eyes of another; through the role you set out to play.

ikr. Oathbreaker is dope.
I don't think OP ever played a TTRPG if they are not understanding the concept of their oath as a responsibility.

been playing two decades.

I do not care if oathbreaker is the coolest funnest class ever. I don't want to play it.

I literally stopped someone from being killed, by rolling deception, which was a big no no.

Oops, my bad, I saved someone from people literally trying to kill her for being ugly.

[Hunter Este]

Because Anti Paladins were always one hell of a class to play.

[ArchaicReaper]

Originally posted by Lunar Shower:

Depends what Oath you took, maybe next time be more careful what Oath you take if you don't want to end up being forced to abide by its rules, though I'd need more details to know what even brought this on really.

Also, no, only way to redeem Oath far as I know is the Oathbreaker Knight, or, *maybe* to respec at Withers and retake your Oath that way. Either way its gonna cost you some gold and time for breaking it to begin with.

Devs confirmed that Oathbreaker specifically cannot respec until they restore their Oath. Oaths are serious as you can't so easily avoid the consequence of breaking them.

Also Oathbreaker Knights is clearly not evil if you listen to his story. You could assume he's lying but then why would he let you even restore your Oath if he wanted evil?

[Blood of Kerensky]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Purple Cucumber:

Originally posted by Blood of Kerensky:

ikr. Oathbreaker is dope.
I don't think OP ever played a TTRPG if they are not understanding the concept of their oath as a responsibility.

been playing two decades.

I do not care if oathbreaker is the coolest funnest class ever. I don't want to play it.

I literally stopped someone from being killed, by rolling deception, which was a big no no.

Oops, my bad, I saved someone from people literally trying to kill her for being ugly.

Then don't deceive people as Devotion Paladin. Lying is a big no no. Regardless of intent. If you want to use any means necessary, Oathbreaker or Vengeance fits more.

[Goddamn Purple Cucumber]

Originally posted by Blanch Warren:

Spiteful Suffering might be a reasonable addition to Spellmight, albeit it's one at close range. I would be curious if thought was put into that decision. Aura of Hate could also boost Necromancer if you have one. As far as what amounts to an offensively oriented Blackguard, you could do a lot worse.

Yeah fair enough.

It just annoys me because I've been playing this guy for a stream, and I don't want to roll back something because I didnt get my way.

Also yeah Necromancer is fun af, been playing one in my personal play-through and by far some of the most fun I've had.

I'll look up Spiteful suffering, I take it it's what oathbreakers get instead?

[victorvnv]

If you kill him you can never respec as Withers will tell you unless you reclaim your oath you are stuck.

So be very careful what you wish for as you will lock yourself out of any respec