Warlocks as offensive spellcasters

[TheBlueFox]

Hey, all you warlocks out there. Does only having 2 spells per combat bother you? Is 2 spells per combat enough?

I mean, they're GOOD spells. if you take fireball it's going to be a 5th level fireball, if you take hold person it's going to target 4 people. Your spells are automatically upcast to the highest level you can cast.

I mean, Armor of Agathys itself gives you 25 temporary hp, and probably deals about 50 damage on its own (It deals 25 damage to an attacker until those temp HP are gone, so probably 2 hits, 3 if they're weak)

That's not bad!

But only 2? 3 at level... 11?

Not enough? Eldrich blast is pretty good, and Extra attack with blade pact is still pretty good too though...

[Wiegs]

It makes you think more about how to use them well, Eldrich blast is also very strong so you don't need to use your 2 spells right away. I've been through a few fights where i didn't even use my spells or they just went to counterspells.

[Glyph]

It's plenty.

[Amateur Nitpicker]

Um I think the point of warlock is not the spellslots. It's the spammable Eldritch Blast. Those spell slots are just bonus things

[Naamtar]

Eldritch Blast is a cantrip, so only having 2 spell slots isn't a huge deal. You get multi-attacks at a higher level, and eventually 3 spell slots.

All of the warlock spells are pretty strong, too.

[Amateur Nitpicker]

Oh I forgot to mention, unlike sorcerer or wizards. Those spellslots can be recharged with short rest not long rest. Hence why it's just smol slot space

[Scheneighnay]

Pact of the Tome is pretty good compared to how it is in 5e.

2 big spells per fight definitely don't bother me, especially with such a powerful cantrip as eldritch blast. Not sure I would burn a whole spell slot on armor of agathys though.

[EricHVela]

So far, all Warlocks I've encountered were offensive... the *******s. >:(

[Friends with Benedicts]

I started this game thinking bout multiclassing warlock. Then I realized pact blade could make me wield anything in the game, the lack of armor was no problem because I was at 18 armor lvl 3 with mage armor, +2 from bulkwark glove (when wearing no armor), +3 from dex, and the offering now at lvl 6 give me 10 extra hit points, along with high con make for a very tanky and dodgy toon. The only thing left is to use hex for extra damage. If anything goes south and I feel I need another spell slot, I can use the arcane restoration elixir. Itll give me another spell slot.

Warlocks cast spells at maximum level which is extremely strong when casting spells that have benefits when using higher spell slots. Plus you recover them after short rest, no other caster does AFAIK. Plus your main stat is Charisma like how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up is that.

[xposethedarkside]

Originally posted by TheBlueFox:

Hey, all you warlocks out there. Does only having 2 spells per combat bother you? Is 2 spells per combat enough?

I mean, they're GOOD spells. if you take fireball it's going to be a 5th level fireball, if you take hold person it's going to target 4 people. Your spells are automatically upcast to the highest level you can cast.

I mean, Armor of Agathys itself gives you 25 temporary hp, and probably deals about 50 damage on its own (It deals 25 damage to an attacker until those temp HP are gone, so probably 2 hits, 3 if they're weak)

That's not bad!

But only 2? 3 at level... 11?

Not enough? Eldrich blast is pretty good, and Extra attack with blade pact is still pretty good too though...

Warlock is the class I play the most. To me the spell slots are best used for battlefield control. My favorite one is Hunger of Hadar. It has ridiculous area of effect, in terms of the amount of ground it covers, and it deals damage at the start of a turn, or if you end a turn in it. Double whammy, plus it slows down the enemy immensely. I couple this with separate repelling blasts to repeatedly knock enemies further back into it. While the eldritch blasts do really good damage on their own, the main point is to keep knocking multiple enemies back into the vortex and making them start all over again. Most enemies never make it through, or if they reach the end, they will most likely run into something like spirit guardians and die right there anyway. The other spell slots are usually reserved for counterspell, or something like hellish rebuke(if it happens to be working at the time)
This plays into my defensive mindset of stealthing into combat, taking the ground of consequence, and then forcing the enemy to attack me on ground of my choosing. These are tried and true military tactics that have worked since the beginning of warfare itself, and they work here to. Control the encounter, control the ground of consequence, control the enemy approach, and you control the enemy.

[Friends with Benedicts]

plus there is hunger of hadar if you really want to go for aoe damage.

[Malthar]

eldritch blast is the damage, that and the fact that the spells recharge on short rest instead of long like everyone else

[mutantspicy]

I think of a warlock as more of a spellsword type. I like to use a a halberd and polearm master feat, along with the eldritch blast. They make for a good second line fighter, and add some def or control spells.

[Hexoplex]

I like using my warlock spell slots to up cast my cleric heal spells, and then get them back with the short rest or with the bard. Weapon pact gives me proficiency with any weapon I have equipped, even if it's outside my classes (using that Gith great sword).

[Friends with Benedicts]

Originally posted by mutantspicy:

I think of a warlock as more of a spellsword type. I like to use a a halberd and polearm master feat, along with the eldritch blast. They make for a good second line fighter, and add some def or control spells.

they make for a good first line fighter even, if you mage amor correctly you might have less odds of being targeted due to high AC.

[Malthar]

Originally posted by Friends with Benedicts:

Originally posted by mutantspicy:

I think of a warlock as more of a spellsword type. I like to use a a halberd and polearm master feat, along with the eldritch blast. They make for a good second line fighter, and add some def or control spells.

they make for a good first line fighter even, if you mage amor correctly you might have less odds of being targeted due to high AC.

hell, i ran a fighter warlock multiclass, heavy armor with polearm blasting ♥♥♥♥ off ledges