Sorcerer vs Wizard

[GreatEagle]

I prefer a sorcerer over a wizard but from what I have read about the two I have not seen any difference and I was wonder if there really was a difference besides the fact that one can scribe scrolls and the other cannot (and I don't mean the different subclass choices).

I heard that a sorcerers magic is supposed to be stronger than a wizards but I have not really seen any difference. Is this true or am I reading things wrong?

[Calv]

Originally posted by CorwynCorey:

Originally posted by Sephiroth:

While the wizard will have his bonus to damage on ALL HIS EVOCATION SPELLS ALL THE TIME.

Um... no. Evokers can Shape the Weave... they can drop a fireball on top of friends, and they will always make their save, and receive 0 damage.
And that is only on evocations.

They get no bonus damage.

At level 10 you can add your Int modifier to evocation spell damage rolls.

But Sorcerors can do the same with whatever element they pick for draconic bloodline, and from a much lower level, so hardly a big difference.

Sephiroth just doesn't understand how Wizards and Sorcerers work and somehow that is the game's fault.

[Shadow Darkraven]

wizard is like a swiss army knife while sorcerer is like a chef's knife

[info]

I don't know why all you kids just don't understand: Swen is a middle-aged pan-sexual Belgian swinger who makes Austin Powers seem like Tipper Gore.

[MadDjinn]

Wild Mage Sorc -- Be the one person in the room no one wants to be near.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by MadDjinn:

Wild Mage Sorc -- Be the one person in the room no one wants to be near.

Wild magic sorcerer is exclusively for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with your friends in co-op

[MadDjinn]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by MadDjinn:

Wild Mage Sorc -- Be the one person in the room no one wants to be near.

Wild magic sorcerer is exclusively for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with your friends in co-op

I love the Wild Mage. I was going to multi-class into Warlock, but then I noticed that level 11 is needed for the last progression on it. All random all the time.

[Edstyles]

Wizard get to learn scrolls only available in bg3. But its very endgame. Just go sorc

[Farandr]

Originally posted by MadDjinn:

Wild Mage Sorc -- Be the one person in the room no one wants to be near.

Lol best way to describe it

[SnakesX4]

Wizard loses all spells learnt from scrolls on respec. Nuff said.

[Zaris]

Wizard:
- can learn all spells: equipped for every situation (there are many fights where you - in theory - can setup the wizard right but in reality you don't need to)

Sorcerer:
- can only learn a limited amount of spells (1 new per level)
- meta magic double cast: big dmg improvement with dual haste on 2 fighters in your group
- meta quicken magic: convert spell to use bonus action pts, in combination that BG3 allows casts for every action pts you have without limitation you can in theory cast 3 spells (hastened) in a round or 4 if you multiclass in rogue (extra bonus action pts)
- can convert sorc pts in spell slots and vice versa infight if needed

The versatility of the wizard is sadly not really needed in BG3 so the only pro argument about him is trashed as long as you know that you most likely need: magic missile, haste, fireball, invisiblity (for pickpocketing) as spells. The dmg buff of double haste is just to valuable because it convert fighters, ranger, barbs, paladins, warlocks in damage monsters.

[Seswatha]

Sorcerer is generally better and has a smoother progression, but some Wizard subclasses are quite strong.

E.g. Evoker enables tactics like standing in a wall of fire/ice for big sustained aoe damage. And magic missile nuking later on (not the highest damage but no way to block except the Shield spell).

Diviner allows you to change important dice rolls, CCing that boss that rolled a high save anyway.

Necromancer allows to summon more skeletons and later ghouls and give them a bit more damage and hp, ghouls are pretty strong combatants later on.

Abjurer is an unkillable tank that blows up everyone who touches him with the right build.

Enchanter is a great CC spec from level 10, basically you get free twin on all enchantment.

Transmuter is the one you leave at home and make him brew you potions and lend you a useful stone later on.

Conjurer gets some free casts of create water which can be nice in a lightning/cold focused party, great mobility and unbreakable concentration on conjuration spell which doesn't sound too bad but all doesn't feel like it's the best choice for any particular build.

Not fond of illusionists in this one.

[DontMisunderstand]

Sorcerers have metamagic. Wizards have more spell slots, a wider spell selection, more powerful subclass abilities that modify their effectiveness with spells. If you're not using twin-spell on Haste, there's no point in using a Sorcerer. Wizards are better at literally everything else.

[alex010300]

Wizards get more spells via learning from spell scrolls but Sorcerer can cast more of them.

[Tachyon]

While they have their differences in the early days there's not much to tell them apart. I went Warlock when the Dread Overlord subclass mod came out and MUCH prefer that as my main now to my existing Wizard and Sorcerer.

[CloudKira]

From what I've seen a Sorcerer is more powerful but a Wizard is more versatile.

Wizard can learn spells from scrolls giving him a much bigger spell range while Sorcerer gets Metamagic to push belong limits.

Sorcerer is better at social interactions though thanks to far greater Charisma which is the focus of his spells.