Too sexualized

[chris3582]

Look, I'm an old head, I admit that. But am I alone in feeling that choosing phallus size and having my party members try to have relations with my avatar inappropriate?

[Zyco]

kill off anyone you dont like..

[Zanteogo]

I only had two "issues" with it, the first bothered me and the second was just weird..

The first is when Gale tricks you into a relationship with this magic show. I believe this was fixed in the last patch where you can clearly get out of it now without being a jerk to him.

The second (SPOILERS), is the rape in hell your characters under go and the detail that plays out. In the House of Hope in act 3, a demon will give you two options, let it bang you or it will (try) to kill you. At one point the game wait for your input and it focuses on the demon having it's way with you while what ever character started the "conversation" is riving in pleasure. It was super weird for me as the character was Jaheira.. a 125 year old half elf...

I am all for adult content mind you. I have to give them credit for going balls to the wall with it. Wasn't expecting it.

[Colourless_Shade]

I mean there's a difference between portraying sex in a tactful way and just forcing it down your throat at every opportunity. Same with depicting relationships. You can do it in a realistic, tactful, slow-burn or quick-burn (depending on char) way... or you can do it in the way BG3 did. Forced, badly written and unrealistic degrees of horny bordering on sexual assault.
If anyone at your work behaved the way your companions behave Day 1, there would be Human Resources involved. And someone would lose their jobs.

I am sorry but BG3 writer who wrote romances and most 'horni' scenes clearly never actually had a living human being to interact with and take inspiration from.

[Metallichuck]

Originally posted by FLAMBE BOMBAY:

You CANNOT change the phallus size which is a huge oversight imo

Yeah. Conan Exiles has a Schlong Slider (TM)

[Big Neil]

Originally posted by Lou the Lou:

The only potential problem with the sexual content in the game is the fact that it seems like anyone can be romanced by anyone. Characters don't seem to have a canon sexual preference and just go along with whatever the player wants to do. I feel like this was their only misstep with the whole situation.

That's not how life or sexuality works. Yes, it's a game, and the player character isn't even necessarily the same person each time, so having aspects of the characters which are not relevant to the overall story be fluid or changeable isn't all that bad - but this is where the majority of the LGBTQ complaints actually originate.

If the origin characters had established sexual preferences and weren't basically throwing themselves at the PC at every opportunity regardless of PC's gender, it would be much closer to real life, and not such a shock to people who aren't used to encountering those things. But as it stands, it seems that every companion\s sexual preference is totally up in the air, which is not only not representative of how people actually operate, but can be somewhat jarring for people just trying to have a fantasy adventure.

That being said, I don't feel like they should change anything, just maybe that there's a lesson here for them to learn.

Just want to say this is the first reasonable / rational response to people complaining about sexualization.

Everyone is not bi-sexual in an RPG, thats bad character design. Unless the idea of hetersexuality doesnt exist in the game world.

Everyone liking the main player character is a little off putting, its not actually story realistic; even in a highly dangerous setting, not everyone will want everyone.

Some characters should have had bad experiences, take longer to warm up to you, some should be really loose. There should be a bit more nuance and variety, even preferences.

Devs could have randomized preferences and liking per playthrough too.

Also

[Zanteogo]

Originally posted by Big Spreadsheets:

Everyone is not bi-sexual in an RPG, thats bad character design. Unless the idea of hetersexuality doesnt exist in the game world.

Everyone liking the main player character is a little off putting, its not actually story realistic; even in a highly dangerous setting, not everyone will want everyone.

Some characters should have had bad experiences, take longer to warm up to you, some should be really loose. There should be a bit more nuance and variety, even preferences.

I have no problems with the whole world being bi in the game. It gives the player options. Not realistic, but it's a game.

The problem is that all the relationships should have been depended on the PLAYER starting them. It's strange having the whole camp lust after a single person, plus like 10 people in the greater world.

If it was up to the player to take the first step, i wouldn't be as strange as it is.

[Syynx]

Originally posted by Zanteogo:

Originally posted by Big Spreadsheets:

Everyone is not bi-sexual in an RPG, thats bad character design. Unless the idea of hetersexuality doesnt exist in the game world.

Everyone liking the main player character is a little off putting, its not actually story realistic; even in a highly dangerous setting, not everyone will want everyone.

Some characters should have had bad experiences, take longer to warm up to you, some should be really loose. There should be a bit more nuance and variety, even preferences.

I have no problems with the whole world being bi in the game. It gives the player options. Not realistic, but it's a game.

The problem is that all the relationships should have been depended on the PLAYER starting them. It's strange having the whole camp lust after a single person, plus like 10 people in the greater world.

If it was up to the player to take the first step, i wouldn't be as strange as it is.

I think it's a nice change of pace. Being hit on by an NPC is fairly uncommon in games (and very common IRL)

[Zanteogo]

Originally posted by Syynx:

I think it's a nice change of pace. Being hit on by an NPC is fairly uncommon in games (and very common IRL)

The problem is, it's a game. Some people want nothing to do with the sexual side of it. I think they should be able to avoid it.

It's also super weird that most of your camp is trying to bang you for a large part of the game.

It even extends past that, even into creatures (without spoiling)

I'm cool with it all being in the game, it just should be optional.

[Syynx]

Originally posted by Zanteogo:

Originally posted by Syynx:

I think it's a nice change of pace. Being hit on by an NPC is fairly uncommon in games (and very common IRL)

The problem is, it's a game. Some people want nothing to do with the sexual side of it. I think they should be able to avoid it.

It's also super weird that most of your camp is trying to bang you for a large part of the game.

It even extends past that, even into creatures (without spoiling)

I'm cool with it all being in the game, it just should be optional.

I feel like there's a glitch or something affecting some peoples games and not others. In my game Gale is very horned up for Tav, but not the rest of the party.

I've never experienced "every NPC is trying to ♥♥♥♥ Tav ASAP" that people complain about. It's just not true in my game.

[6210]

Originally posted by Zanteogo:

Originally posted by Syynx:

I think it's a nice change of pace. Being hit on by an NPC is fairly uncommon in games (and very common IRL)

The problem is, it's a game. Some people want nothing to do with the sexual side of it. I think they should be able to avoid it.

It's also super weird that most of your camp is trying to bang you for a large part of the game.

It even extends past that, even into creatures without spoilers.

I'm cool with it all being in the game, it just should be optional.

But that's just the thing. Every instance of this -is- optional. You are not at any one time (unless you're blindly spamming through dialogue or a glitch occurs) where you are forced to engage sexually with any of the NPCs. If that's not the issue, then it's really a "oh, actually I just don't want to see any of it", which is humorous and ironic given the history we have had of people telling LGBT folk to just get over it when a video game or piece of media had no relateable content (in appropriate context).

[Zanteogo]

Originally posted by Rhen:

But that's just the thing. Every instance of this -is- optional. You are not at any one time (unless you're blindly spamming through dialogue or a glitch occurs) where you are forced to engage sexually with any of the NPCs. If that's not the issue, then it's really a "oh, actually I just don't want to see any of it", which is humorous and ironic given the history we have had of people telling LGBT folk to just get over it when a video game or piece of media had no relateable content (in appropriate context).

Though there are moments when you are forced into some sexual things in the game, (walking to the barn with the Hobgoblin and Orge, getting the option to bang or die in the House of Hope) Some people don't want to be hit on, by almost everyone. (and in some cases, some THINGS)

They seemed to have fixed Gale in the last patch, now there is a new nice option of "woah big guy, we are just friends ok' (or something like that)

If it was up to the player to start relationships, it would have avoided most of this.

[Syynx]

Originally posted by Zanteogo:

Originally posted by Rhen:

But that's just the thing. Every instance of this -is- optional. You are not at any one time (unless you're blindly spamming through dialogue or a glitch occurs) where you are forced to engage sexually with any of the NPCs. If that's not the issue, then it's really a "oh, actually I just don't want to see any of it", which is humorous and ironic given the history we have had of people telling LGBT folk to just get over it when a video game or piece of media had no relateable content (in appropriate context).

Though there are moments when you are forced into some sexual things in the game, (walking to the barn with the Hobgoblin and Orge, getting the option to bang or die in the House of Hope) Some people don't want to be hit on, by almost everyone. (and in some cases, some THINGS)

They seemed to have fixed Gale in the last patch, now there is a new nice option of "woah big guy, we are just friends ok' (or something like that)

If it was up to the player to start relationships, it would have avoided most of this.

When you click on the game it says this (before you're even forced to buy the game, as I assume you were):

THIS GAME MAY CONTAIN CONTENT NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ALL AGES,
OR MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR VIEWING AT WORK.
The developers describe the content like this:
“This Game may contain content not appropriate for all ages. It contains General Mature Content, and may include Nudity or Sexual Content.”

People, still somehow: "Wow, I did not expect sexual content in this game, what a scam! I bet the LIBS are behind this"

[6210]

Originally posted by Zanteogo:

Originally posted by Rhen:

But that's just the thing. Every instance of this -is- optional. You are not at any one time (unless you're blindly spamming through dialogue or a glitch occurs) where you are forced to engage sexually with any of the NPCs. If that's not the issue, then it's really a "oh, actually I just don't want to see any of it", which is humorous and ironic given the history we have had of people telling LGBT folk to just get over it when a video game or piece of media had no relateable content (in appropriate context).

Though there are moments when you are forced into some sexual things in the game, (walking to the barn with the Hobgoblin and Orge, getting the option to bang or die in the House of Hope) Some people don't want to be hit on, by almost everyone. (and in some cases, some THINGS)

They seemed to have fixed Gale in the last patch, now there is a new nice option of "woah big guy, we are just friends ok' (or something like that)

If it was up to the player to start relationships, it would have avoided most of this.

I mistook your original point of arguement for against romantic content (and where ever they included scenes of sex involving the player). You're actually requesting for an option of zero lewd content shown to the player. Which is a bit strange to ask in a game that is rated for mature audience, and had well touted to include sex scenes and raunchy behavior.

This is more of a situation that is best remedied by the modding community to best fit your desires. Otherwise, you're holding a very strange position to pick up a mature game that has nudity and/or sex involved, and then requesting an option to have none of it be available (toggleable or not).

You could make a similar arguement when picking up any anime, harem based JRPG, and then complaining asking why the dev's don't just add an option to turn off the romance, where in these kinds of situations its really just best for the player to ignore it or play something else.

[zodiacdragon2]

Sounds like you problem buddy the relationships and sexualization makes the game more fun and interesting and more realistic BG3 did a smart thing by adding that concept only issue is wish there was not so many damn tragic endings like come on this game seems like its a lose lose situation no matter what Karlich gonna die no matter what gale is meant to be sacrificed i just got really frustrated with how most decisions end the game or have bad endings no real happy endings it upset me

[Berserk Slayer]

Originally posted by Zanteogo:

If it was up to the player to start relationships, it would have avoided most of this.

BioWare walked a little over that line at times. but this is typically how it has been with computer RPGs.

It makes sense because there are all different kinds of people playing an RPG, of all opinions and none on romance,. The computer can't gauge when it would be fitting to have that happen like a human GM can, but you don't want to remove choice - so giving the player a "pick n mix" experience means everyone is happy.

I am playing at the moment. Nobody has sexually harassed my character yet, but it's early days, I suppose