And I thought people hated turn-based RPG

[Bigboss PC Faster]

Square Enix refuses to make a turn-based rpg Final Fantasy and says that turn-based game is dead.

[sevensided]

A shame, because a current generation of iteration of Final fantasy Tactics would be baller

[Gonie]

Good game is Good game anyway

[CorwynCorey]

Love them. Always have.... just so few come out. Far more like being at a table than some shooter that claims "RPG elements" make it an rpg somehow.

[Faefu]

turn-based RPGs have their own dedicated fanbase and can still be enjoyable for many players. It's all about personal preference, ya know?

[MrSoul]

Square soft is a joke now.

[Mr Fred]

Last relevant FF was IX, nobody with half decent taste give a single f*** about that dead company.

[Horrorscope CC97]

I thought Xcom was very popular, facts are a good game is a good game. That said, I do troll Chess forums throughout the internet and feel real-time chess is a lot more fun, like a lot more.

[EleventhStar]

it's definitly more of a niche genre.

like xcom, pillars of eternity and divnity original sins are probably the only ones that your average person has ever heard off, well and this one now ofc.

[sevensided]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Last relevant FF was IX, nobody with half decent taste give a single f*** about that dead company.

I mean, this is objectively a ♥♥♥♥♥ take, considering the success of FF 14

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

It's a myth propagated mainly by early Bioware to justify them running for the Diablo Crowd and Square Enix.
So at some point nobody ever tried a high production value TB Game anymore, because the 2 big ones in the RPG field at that time said so.
Obviously it's a little bit more complicated then that...ie there was a bit of market fatigue because of the high number of tb games before Bioware made bg1 etc. so there were a few more factors, but the former one was the major reason, why nobody risked it until Larian.

[EleventhStar]

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

It's a myth propagated mainly by early Bioware to justify them running for the Diablo Crowd and Square Enix.
So at some point nobody ever tried a high production value TB Game anymore, because the 2 big ones in the RPG field at that time said so.
Obviously it's a little bit more complicated then that...ie there was a bit of market fatigue because of the high number of tb games before Bioware made bg1 etc. so there were a few more factors, but the former one was the major reason, why nobody risked it until Larian.

nah there is definilty more to it than that.

a traditional top down rpg is usually slow paced both in actual gameplay and in overall plot pacing.

which sets someting like xcom apart from tradtional top down rpgs to the point many people don't even think of xcom as an a rpg but more like squad tactics game or something like that.

as a rule of thumb fast paced action packed games are typically more mainstream, which is just easier to do in real time first or third person rpgs.

[thefollowingcharacters]

Square Enix made Octopath Traveler 1 and 2, so I'm not sure why you think as a company they believe its dead.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by EleventhStar:

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

It's a myth propagated mainly by early Bioware to justify them running for the Diablo Crowd and Square Enix.
So at some point nobody ever tried a high production value TB Game anymore, because the 2 big ones in the RPG field at that time said so.
Obviously it's a little bit more complicated then that...ie there was a bit of market fatigue because of the high number of tb games before Bioware made bg1 etc. so there were a few more factors, but the former one was the major reason, why nobody risked it until Larian.

nah there is definilty more to it than that.

a traditional top down rpg is usually slow paced both in actual gameplay and in overall plot pacing.

which sets someting like xcom apart from tradtional top down rpgs to the point many people don't even think of xcom as an a rpg but more like squad tactics game or something like that.

as a rule of thumb fast paced action packed games are typically more mainstream, which is just easier to do in real time first or third person rpgs.

I admitted that it's more complicated in my post, but the major reason why nobody tried anymore was the 2 top dogs of rpgs at that time saying "nah, TB doesn't sell enough" still.
And now Larian demonstrated, that despite your reasoning you can make a good selling tb game, so something seems to be flawed with the "tb games are to slow" argument.
Especially seeing as all RTWP Games are struggeling to sell enough copies, if they don't add tb mode, and owlcat completely switching to tb...
If "tb is to slow" was true we wouldn't see that.

[BimboGooch]

I mean the type of turn base ff usually has is boring as hell. It isnt a tactics in most cases, its just literally by its pure sense turn based. That might be more dead. This is TACTICS turn based.

Right now at least in the west the classic jrpg turn based stuff is "dead" its not mainstream. Now if a good game with a lot of news comes out, with that classic non tactics FF turn based system. it could revive it. But in general action combat is far more popular.

Id rather play an action FF then boring no movement turn based. I hope ff tries another tactics type of turn based game though.

By dead I mean "non mainstream"

[Blanch Warren]

Square Enix makes pokemon games.