Game is finicky about breaking paladin oaths

[mouserat31]

Playing as an Oath of the Ancients paladin is pretty dope, except for when a series of decisions/actions in combat I couldn’t have adequately foreseen (in Grymforge) caused me to break my oath.

I know there are ways to reverse it, but still…it kinda takes away from the way I want to role play my character. Anyone else experience this type of thing as paladins? Wish conditions of oath breaking were clearer sometimes.

[Recjawjind]

Yeah in the context of a videogame, it's always going to be a smidge finicky. Don't think there is much of a way around that.

[Mr. Otter]

My first playthrough was with a Paladin and it bugged out in Grymforge too. At the Nere fight, I allied with the rebels and after the fight, my oath broke suddenly for no reason. I reloaded and doing the fight again fixed it. Not sure why it happened tho. Other than that, I haven't encountered many decisions/actions that were disguised as being okay, just for my oath to break. You should be good for the later acts.

[Cat]

I've only broken my oath once and it was pretty clear why after examining how a fight went, what exactly did you do to break Ancient? It's by far the easiest oath outside of vengeance to keep intact. I'm curious, not trying to say it can't be weird sometimes.

[zero]

straight up i never know what breaks an oath but i do know if i pick the oath option i wont end up breaking it no matter what happens.

and also as long as i, the paladin do not instigate the fight the game doesn't care 99% of the time either.

[HUNTY]

I once attacked Balthazar without talking to him first, killed him and that broke my oath. I had to walk up to him and tell him I'll kill him lol

[causality]

Originally posted by mouserat31:

Playing as an Oath of the Ancients paladin is pretty dope, except for when a series of decisions/actions in combat I couldn’t have adequately foreseen (in Grymforge) caused me to break my oath.

I know there are ways to reverse it, but still…it kinda takes away from the way I want to role play my character. Anyone else experience this type of thing as paladins? Wish conditions of oath breaking were clearer sometimes.

This has been Paladin since 2e. Did you think it would change after 3 decades?

[His Divine Shadow]

That's why I picked Oath of Dredd, I mean Vengeance

[blade_125]

I've had a half dozen instances where I was doing what I felt was the moral decision, only to find it broke my oath. It seems to always come down to keeping a promise, and/or upholding the greater good. I think the key is always consider the greater good. And I mean the numbers. Morality shouldn't come down to calculus but in here it seems to.

[Chaosolous]

Originally posted by Mr. Otter:

My first playthrough was with a Paladin and it bugged out in Grymforge too. At the Nere fight, I allied with the rebels and after the fight, my oath broke suddenly for no reason. I reloaded and doing the fight again fixed it. Not sure why it happened tho. Other than that, I haven't encountered many decisions/actions that were disguised as being okay, just for my oath to break. You should be good for the later acts.

I don't think that's a bug. I'm pretty sure the rebels are still considered "evil" or whatever qualifier there is for the oath to break. They try to keep the gnomes as slaves after the fight unless you threaten/persuade them not to.

[mitchincredible]

OoA is the worst oath because if you kill even evil guards you are somehow in violation of the oath despite the fact that if evil guards are guarding people who would do evil - then by proxy killing them is actually protecting life which is part of the oath

[[STD]Random Lead]

Originally posted by mouserat31:

I know there are ways to reverse it, but still…it kinda takes away from the way I want to role play my character. Anyone else experience this type of thing as paladins? Wish conditions of oath breaking were clearer sometimes.

except you are not roleplaying YOUR character. You are roleplaying a paladin that has an oath to keep. The baldurs gate forums definitely do not disappoint in the entertainment dept.

[Toknak]

I'm pretty sure I had a bug happen to me regarding an Oath, too.
I took Oath of Vengeance, for reference. Dunno if it happens with the other Oaths. Anyways, in ACT ONE, near the back of the Grove there's a goblin in a cage. In my very brief study of this bug, if you open the cage door under any circumstance (goblin is alive, dead, or otherwise exists), you will break your Oath. I figured that was the case with her alive, which is why I was so confused to find it happening to me when she was dead as hell by someone else's hand.

Did I let an evil soul out of the cage? Was she just playing dead and the Gods knew what I didn't? Probably not. Still a funny bug though, and made me glad I'm not doing a "No Reloads" playthrough.