[Spoilers] Moonrise Complaint (vent)

[Shiven]

I've had next to no complaints that I can remember through A1 and up through A2. But wtf is with this part? Jaheira's and the harper's AI is the dumbest thing I've encounted in this game. As a rogue I can sneak in up top of the tower but as soon as I set foot inside (undetected) any door Jaheira and her moronic harpers rush inside and start battle and just instantly die in the tower. If I decide to fight through the front door which seems to be the only other option she will douse every flame with her spells that I had placed and simply dies after assisting the enemy in the fight. They can barely kill 1 enemy mob. About 40 reloads that I have tried and attempted different strategies from the forced front gate encounter. There is no option to tell the Harpers to stand down or ♥♥♥♥ off. I've even killed them all. Attempted to knock Jaheira unconscious, but you just can't seem to do that without killing her off. The tower fights are some of the largest to face at this point the game, yet the AI run wildly and clueless into death. I'm sure there are other paths that can be taken with Jaheira in some way but do I really need to spend 6 hours to come across them on my own?

Further past that you hit prison and come across a 20+ strong mob encounters at once. Making me feel like that's all this is. Less creative ways to embolden a enemy and just mob stacking.

Oh you want to long rest after some of the hardest fights you have come across in the entire game so far (never mind what difficulty)? Better back track a mile out of the tower and across a bridge because.... just why?

[Ratch]

Yeah, I've started clearing out Moonrise after getting clearance from Z'rell to grab Balthazaar's Lantern. ♥♥♥♥ that huge battle.

Just go room by room and stealth kill as many as you can undetected. Swap to TB mode, stealth out of LOS, attack. On my current run I've cleared everyone in the Tower and I still have yet to go defend Last Light Inn. I was hoping to find that one dude and take him out before triggering the Inn fight but he's not anywhere in the world.

That tactic worked for clearing the Goblins, too. Eventually you'll start getting aggro'd on sight but even then most fights are self-contained, at least in Moonrise. If you take out the war drums then the gobbo fights are generally self-contained.

[Alex_infinity]

I take Jaheira with me, leaving the harpists to their fate, and I pass through the door to the left, not entering through the middle door, then it's up to her to fight or not

[Jallad]

Had a multiplayer run where this was more or less my experience as well. Jaheira rushed in and died, all but a couple archer harpers died, and we barely pulled through it all. It's a very long, brutal battle.

On my singleplayer, I just went to moonrise before the gauntlet and quickly and quietly killed the place room by room. The final harper assault was a complete joke and over in a few turns.

It's weird, the direct assault feels like the intended route and it's just a bit too harsh although, not the harshest, act 3 throws a lot of bs at you. IF you get nightsong's help, half the place should already be dead already or something, seems like all she does is leave a few patches of blue fire and then you kill 100% of the occupants yourself.

[Mr. Otter]

The first fight isn't really that hard. You can recruit Jaheira before the first push into the towers so you can control her. A lot of AoE spells like Silence, Hunger of Hadar, Spike Growth to control the floor and you're all set. The only issue I've had with it is that it kinda tanks the the fps.

[H.]

You could clear out the whole tower with your party of four before the Harpers even show up there, if you still have a save game from before you entered the Shadowfell. Clearing the tower on your own is pretty easy even on Tactician.

[Hawke]

It should be possible to ask Jaheira to join the party as a follower, stealth everyone (her separately), as was mentioned, enter through the kitchen, climb the ladder on the right from the door, and follow the wooden planks and roots to the next floor where only a mimic and 4 priestess stand between the party and the boss.

Edit. The obvious downside is the lower amount of XP, but it is much faster.