Recruiting Minthara?

[Emjay]

Hi folks,

So does anyone know if there's a wat to recruit Minthara without raiding the Grove with her?

Without cheering the game with what's on Google, is it literally a case of choosing Minthara over Halsin, Wyll and Karlach?

[Hauzer]

It is possible to have both Minthara and Halsin and have them both fully functional, I already said exactly how to do it on the first page. I do not think it's intended however cause they both share the same tent.

I did it before the patch today, but I still have them both and fully functional after the patch. Minthara + Karlach/Wyll is an intended possibility(and there's dialogue about each other) cause some people are simply not gonna go to the goblin camp

[zpc]

Publicado originalmente por EvilDonut:

Publicado originalmente por zpc:

With patch 1, there is no way left to get both Minthara and Halsin:



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Recruiting Minthara doesn't necessarely involve the grove raid though (that's one option). You could also just move on (the only thing you shouldn't do is kill or "non-lethal-kill" her, as the game treats both as "death" and removes here from the game).

what if i kill thew other 2 and ignore her?

The quest will not complete and the game locks you in the "Tieflings doesn't survive act 1"-path. The game is binary here and offers no middleground. Kiss goodbye a lot of early act2 gear upgrades (several merchants missing at last light) as well as Karlachs personal quest. If both things doesn't matter - Minthara is worth it.

Halsin could be replaced by Jaheira (actually she is a better choice as she has some quests in act 3).

Publicado originalmente por Hauzer:

It is possible to have both Minthara and Halsin and have them both fully functional, I already said exactly how to do it on the first page. I do not think it's intended however cause they both share the same tent.

I did it before the patch today, but I still have them both and fully functional after the patch. Minthara + Karlach/Wyll is an intended possibility(and there's dialogue about each other) cause some people are simply not gonna go to the goblin camp

I too have a character with both Minthara and Halsin - this isn't retroactive. But everybody going for Minthara now will face the changes from patch 1. So the old know-how doesn't cut it anymore. (those were hacks after all)

You might have overread my post above yours on page one - the patch 1 forced the halsin-mithara mutual exclusivness: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/3819669231700157155/#c3819669231700175771

[Yhvh10]

Publicado originalmente por Aria Athena:

Publicado originalmente por Yhvh10:

I do honestly feel bad killing her though. Mainly because I know she’s being mind controlled, and I feel like I’m being forced to kill a victim.

On one hand, yes. On the other hand, let's just say, don't feel too bad about it.

I like her as a character and I empathize with the fact shes literally being mind controlled, and free of the absolute she isnt quite the same person.

But with that being said, I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. I just dont necessarily enjoy it.

[Emjay]

The strange thing here is it feels like if you want Minthara or a playthrough that isn't good, then your party options are severely limited. Your likely going to need to rely on hirelings rather than having straight up individuals.

I mean, you Gale hasn't complained yet, but I find him quite annoying anyway and that's without his needy condition.

Shadowheart, laezel and astarion isn't a terrible party to be fair and swapping minthara in for someone, maybe shadowheart may well be OK... I'll have to test it!

[chelapago]

I couldn't care less about Halsin and curing the shadowlands (Jaheira is better imo). My 2nd playthrough was gonna be Lae'zel, Shadowheart and Jaheira anyway- so losing Karlach and Wyl wasn't a deal breaker either. What I care about is the refugees.

So what I'm gathering in this thread is:
that not telling Minthera where to sick her goblin army AND jumping straight to act 2 to meet her at Moonrise-somehow the "game" narratively still kills the tieflings. So the only conclusion I can draw is that it's the druids that kill the tieflings off-screen.
So what happens if you just kill the druids instead?
Don't tell Minthera-kills the druids- then hop onto act 2
Will the tieflings make it to Last Light Inn? Or is the story coding not account for that and they still die?

As Yhvh10 said

Publicado originalmente por Yhvh10:

Im just gonna say that I think Larian dropped the ball with Minthara as a character.

Shes actually a good character, but for some reason in order to recruit her you have to do an evil deed.

Her requirements just don't align with her character, and were all just trying to find a workaround.

[chelapago]

Hooray for patch 5 fixing this