Recruiting Minthara?

[Emjay]

Hi folks,

So does anyone know if there's a wat to recruit Minthara without raiding the Grove with her?

Without cheering the game with what's on Google, is it literally a case of choosing Minthara over Halsin, Wyll and Karlach?

[Aria Athena]

I think if you ignore the grove completely, you don't loose anyone else, although I read somewhere that some dialog may bug out.

[M&M's]

I did this on my gameplay.

Act 1, joined her
later we had sex

Act 2, I go with the half spider dude
Joined absolute followers
convinced general to not kill her, so she is in dungeon for torture
Then go save her, she joins you

[H.Honor]

There is a way
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15togq8/guide_to_get_minthara_and_save_tieflings/

[zpc]

Originally posted by Emjay:

Without cheering the game with what's on Google, is it literally a case of choosing Minthara over Halsin, Wyll and Karlach?

With patch 1, there is no way left to get both Minthara and Halsin:

Originally posted by Patch 1:

You can no longer recruit both Halsin and Minthara to camp in the same playthrough.

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Recruiting Minthara doesn't necessarely involve the grove raid though (that's one option). You could also just move on (the only thing you shouldn't do is kill or "non-lethal-kill" her, as the game treats both as "death" and removes here from the game).

[H.Honor]

Originally posted by zpc:

Originally posted by Emjay:

Without cheering the game with what's on Google, is it literally a case of choosing Minthara over Halsin, Wyll and Karlach?

With patch 1, there is no way left to get both Minthara and Halsin:

Originally posted by Patch 1:

You can no longer recruit both Halsin and Minthara to camp in the same playthrough.

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Recruiting Minthara doesn't necessarely involve the grove raid though (that's one option). You could also just move on (the only thing you shouldn't do is kill or "non-lethal-kill" her, as the game treats both as "death" and removes here from the game).

Ah bummer

[HTakara]

keel da grove and smash her in the after party

[Hauzer]

You can recruit her in Act 2 without raiding the Grove, but you can't save the Tieflings as well. Basically you have to leave the main Grove quests unfinished by not raiding the Grove or killing all the goblin leaders. You can recruit Halsin as well but I think it's unintended

Don't interact with Minthara in Act 1 at all

Recruit Wyll/Karlach like normal

Expose Kagha as a Shadow Druid

In Act 2 she will be at Moonrise and you can save her and have her join you

If you want Halsin: Rescue him in the prison but tell him to stay there. In Act 2 start the Art Callagh quest in Last Light, go back to Halsin in the Goblin prison and talk to him, then meet him in Last Light and do that quest

[Kinori]

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to get minthara you raid the grove otherwise you're just stopping yourself from experiencing content for no real reason. I imagine you want to keep perusing the tiefling questlines but its just not going to happen.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Kinori:

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to get minthara you raid the grove otherwise you're just stopping yourself from experiencing content for no real reason. I imagine you want to keep perusing the tiefling questlines but its just not going to happen.

You can refuse to help either side in the Grove.

[Emjay]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Originally posted by Kinori:

You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you're going to get minthara you raid the grove otherwise you're just stopping yourself from experiencing content for no real reason. I imagine you want to keep perusing the tiefling questlines but its just not going to happen.

You can refuse to help either side in the Grove.

This and your response were thr answer I was after, rather than skipping content or cheesing through, so thanks.

Off the top of your head, do you know or remember how I don't get involved as such? I saw dialogue that suggested such, but i felt I kept getting herded into raiding or saving.

[Yhvh10]

Im just gonna say that I think Larian dropped the ball with Minthara as a character.

Shes actually a good character, but for some reason in order to recruit her you have to do an evil deed.

She should be recruitable by knocking her out. Or you should be able to save the Tieflings by distracting the Goblins and Minthara and getting them out without killing her.

Really, I am FINE with a character companion who is evil and does bad things. Astarion kinda sorta fits the bill though I wouldnt call him truly evil. More just immensely selfish and self-centered. But i have NEVER seen a genuinely good character (Paladin of Vengeance, sure she isnt a knight in shining armor but post-liberation Minthara is a 'good' character) get locked behind committing an atrocious deed. Especially a 'good' character who is being effectively mind controlled.

I dont understand it. Maybe a bug? I'd also like to know what Larian was doing with her romance. Could someone tell me if there is even a romance there?

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by Emjay:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

You can refuse to help either side in the Grove.

This and your response were thr answer I was after, rather than skipping content or cheesing through, so thanks.

Off the top of your head, do you know or remember how I don't get involved as such? I saw dialogue that suggested such, but i felt I kept getting herded into raiding or saving.

Yeah you can just go straight to the mountain pass or do everything but the battle. Literally just skip the whole grove arc.

I dont feel like thats a solution. More like a 'patch'. Your literally skipping a major story beat. I mean, thats what it basically entails.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Emjay:

Off the top of your head, do you know or remember how I don't get involved as such? I saw dialogue that suggested such, but i felt I kept getting herded into raiding or saving.

You can keep saying no to the Tieflings, although it doesn't chance much. As far as Minthara goes, if you talk to her you kinda have to "agree" to help, even though you can tell her you are not ready yet. I don't thing it's possible to get dragged into it by mistake, you never get locked into fighting for either side. Before the fight takes place, the grove changes state, you will notice.

I am not sure what all the triggers are for the quest to proceed, but for example, if you agree to help Minthara, she will tell you to wait a day. After resting the quest will progress, but you still have to go manually to the grove and talk to the Tiefling leader, and even then you still get to choose whom to help.

I guess for world consistency, say to the tieflings that it's not your fight, say the same thing to Halsin, do whatever with Minthara, and just never bother with the grove after a certain point. The fight will probably be resolved on its own, when you leave act 1.

Originally posted by Yhvh10:

Yeah you can just go straight to the mountain pass or do everything but the battle. Literally just skip the whole grove arc.

I dont feel like thats a solution. More like a 'patch'. Your literally skipping a major story beat. I mean, thats what it basically entails.

You don't have to skip the whole grove, just refuse to help against the goblins. You are only skipping a single battle and the corresponding celebration. It's only a side quest.

[Yhvh10]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

You don't have to skip the whole grove, just refuse to help against the goblins. You are only skipping a single battle and the corresponding celebration. It's only a side quest.

Can you still get Halsin?

[GeminiEclipse]

You can't get Halsin and Minthara at the same time anymore. I did that last patch. My current save on new patch Halsin just straight up gets killed as soon as I load.