So we are capped to 12..

[Simpson3k]

but Sarvevok got level 16 hm? You suck to the sky Larian.l

[cerabus2001]

Go look at the WOTC official books.

The Hoard of Dragons/Rise of Tiamat is a Level 1-15 adventure and you fight a literal God in that game.
Out of the Abyss - 1-15 - Fighting literally Demon Lords
Baldur's Gate: Decent into Avernus - 1-13

As you can see, WOTC themselves hate going to Level 20 in their games, and it is a lot easier to cater for some of the spells you get at those higher levels with pen and paper than it ever will be in a game.

Originally posted by FlashXAron ☕ (Alex):

REST for DLC ,

Doubtful.

[sheep from hell]

Originally posted by Simpson3k:

but Sarvevok got level 16 hm? You suck to the sky Larian.l

complain at wizards of the coast because their balancing is above Lvl12 not existing

[L7]

Sarvevok was weak IMO and I was playing in tactical. 12 was a cap because of balancing. I am sure there will be an expansion.

[everybe2]

Originally posted by antonio.morrow23:

Sarvevok was weak IMO and I was playing in tactical. 12 was a cap because of balancing. I am sure there will be an expansion.

Nop

[Nozarashi]

Water is wet, thats the game stop complain.

[Cyroy]

Sarevok was level 16? Damn, the wuss went down so quick I didn't even notice.

[Tahl]

Okay so point bait obviously but... I saw that knowing how stupid people can genuinely be so Ill say it anyway, level doesnt mean anything.
There is no such thing as level 16. They tacked numbers to some enemies to make them look scary.
It kinda sucks that almost all of Act3s XP is just farted into the wind but that has nothing to do with a random enemy having a sticky note with a number on it.

[Innominatam]

Originally posted by TemplarIRL:

Edit:
Also, to the people choosing to ignore Larian's shortcomings: A boss fight can still be a fun challenge if the DM (in this case Larian) is creative and puts some effort into it... Like, having lair actions and baddies that show up to increase the "challenge rating" of the encounter - they went the easy route and just made the boss a higher level.

Hello seasoned DM here, this is a bogus thing to say. Yes you can hand tailor encounters to challenge a specific group of lvl 20's how you have to literally counter their classes, magic items etc.

So the same strat will not work for a totally different set of lvl 20's. Also it requires much pausing and DM input as you go "how would this work?", "how will we handle this?" and other such questions from players

These are all situation a video game cannot account for,

[Green spleen submarine]

Wonder how this guy handled Elden Ring if they were upset boss stats were higher than their character's.

[Born2Pwn]

There is a fight where you are up against like 20 level 1 rats, That's like a level 20 boss, omg so unfair.

Keep farming those clown points bro.

[Mijj]

Originally posted by TemplarIRL:

I'm irritated that I dropped $130 on the game in 2020 and it's STILL not finished. Transparency is a blessing most times. 🤷

Mods make me feel better about the state of the game though.
This one lets you go to 20 (any number of levels in any class).
If you are starting a new game, will also adjust the XP curve for a smoother level-up experience.

https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/377?tab=description

Edit:
Also, to the people choosing to ignore Larian's shortcomings: A boss fight can still be a fun challenge if the DM (in this case Larian) is creative and puts some effort into it... Like, having lair actions and baddies that show up to increase the "challenge rating" of the encounter - they went the easy route and just made the boss a higher level.

So you say you are dfissapointed because you suck at the game and you need a mod to get at lvl 20 because you can't fight the bosses level 15, 16 or 17? Skill issue here

[GamingWithSilvertail]

m8 sarevak is a boss enemy.

Bosses are suppose to be harder and level helps in making them harder.

[Simpson3k]

Originally posted by Green spleen submarine:

Wonder how this guy handled Elden Ring if they were upset boss stats were higher than their character's.

I handled elden ring with uninstall and hide in my library after the first 20 hours of trying to adapt. I was captured by the hype around the game. Was a very expensive lesson. To purchase a game and try it to long to get a refund *shrugs* Sorry that i have announce to you that the worlds is no only populated with turbo pros like yourself.

[Green spleen submarine]

Originally posted by Simpson3k:

Originally posted by Green spleen submarine:

Wonder how this guy handled Elden Ring if they were upset boss stats were higher than their character's.

I handled elden ring with uninstall and hide in my library after the first 20 hours of trying to adapt. I was captured by the hype around the game. Was a very expensive lesson. To purchase a game and try it to long to get a refund *shrugs* Sorry that i have announce to you that the worlds is no only populated with turbo pros like yourself.

I got it, there's a problem between the chair and the keyboard.

[RedMint]

Originally posted by SilverSignet:

*Sigh* How do people not get this? The player cut off is 12 because the spells get impossible/ridiculous to try to program. How will the story hold together if you can casually cast True Resurrection on literally anyone? How to handle Plane Shift? Wish? Foresight? Control Weather? The scale becomes ludicrous for the flexibility and impact of these spells. If a specific NPC is higher level, they can artificially limit their particular powers. Plus, part of the story is SUPPOSED to be that you are hitting significantly above your weight class, and can't hope to pull these things off without friends, a brain, and a plan?

To be fair, Solasta has reached level cap 16 (same AD&D 5e rules), and pulled it off nicely. They also did the visual dicerolling (and a bunch of stuff) before BG3. Not saying it's a better game (although I would argue in some very specific areas, it is). But they managed it. It's only a matter of time before we get 16 and eventually 20. Some spells (like Control Weather) just get nerfed or abandoned, it's really no big deal.

And the whole idea is that you do campaigns. Some are for levels 1-5, others for 5-10, and so on. We shouldn't expect our hard-worked characters to cap out at 12. We should expect DLC with new campaigns and new level caps.