Baldur's Gate 3

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Lodreus Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:15am
Worth restarting to have a better build?
I'm still on the first act and don't believe to have gotten far (Last fight was The Hag). I'm playing as a Rogue Tiefling. I chose Tiefling based on RP and appearance. However, the past few fights I feel to be lackin an impact in battles and it's not what I expect from a Rogue class. It might be because I'm so used to how Rogue plays in Div2 and need to take time to adapt. I've only done 19hrs so far.

Question: Does race and background make a big difference? If not, will I be able to improve my stats later on in the game?
Last edited by Lodreus; Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:23am
Originally posted by Sir_Baldur:
Race will impact how other NPC's treat you. Background will determine what actions inspire you (give you a bonus role) and will give you unique dialogue options.

You can increase your stats by 2 every 4 levels - or pick a feat.

If Larian allowed us to roll stats then I'd play around with feats more. Since that's not the case we are left to using armor to plug any stat gaps or use the increase at level 4/8/12.
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Kyutaru Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:16am 
Just pay the guy who can respect your character for like 100 gold. Not worth starting over.
Abisha Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:16am 
you can talk to witcher he can fix you up
Sultar Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:18am 
You can respec your character whenever you want once you meet Withers. Except change your race and appearance
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Zaris Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:19am 
Rogue is the weakest damage class and in general a bad class because bard has more utility. Here a quick overview which is minimum possible with single-class heros:

- fighter: 6+1 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm = 7 x 24 = 168 dmg / first round boosted by 3 attacks and 6x D10 fighter skills = 168 +3x24+ 6D10 = 273 dmg
- barbarian: 5 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm + 3 rage = 5 x 27 = 135 dmg
- ranger: 4+1 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm +d6 mark = 5 x 27,5 = 137,5 dmg
- paladin: 4+1 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm + D8 smite = 5 x 28,5 = 142 dmg / first round boosted by 5 smites around 5x 3d8 = 142+67 = ~210 dmg
- monk: 4 attacks hasted +2 flurry offhand = 6 on D8 unarmed + 5 dex + D4 elemental + 4 wis = 6*16 = 96 dmg
- warlock: 2 attacks hasted on D10 blast + 5 cha + D6 hex = 2 * 3 * 14 = 82
- rogue: 2 attacks hasted, 2 bonus actions, one sneak possible: on D6 shortsword + 5 dex + 2 magic = 2 x 10,5 + 2x 5,5 + 5d6 sneak = 42+21 = 53

Fighter classes do in general about 3 times the dmg of a rogue and even warlock / monk have about double the dmg.

There are some multiclass ideas like rogue / ranger gloomstalker to get a garuanteed first hit critical and abusing the bad combat system to silently take out weaker enemies with crits.
Lodreus Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:19am 
I know about the dead lookin guy but my question is on race and background. Does it have a huge impact or not?
Abisha Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by Lodreus:
I know about the dead lookin guy but my question is on race and background. Does it have a huge impact or not?
Race and background have little to no effect with this game
Lodreus Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Zaris:
Rogue is the weakest damage class and in general a bad class because bard has more utility. Here a quick overview which is minimum possible with single-class heros:

- fighter: 6+1 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm = 7 x 24 = 168 dmg / first round boosted by 3 attacks and 6x D10 fighter skills = 168 +3x24+ 6D10 = 273 dmg
- barbarian: 5 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm + 3 rage = 5 x 27 = 135 dmg
- ranger: 4+1 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm +d6 mark = 5 x 27,5 = 137,5 dmg
- paladin: 4+1 attacks hasted on 2d6 greatsword +2 magic + 5 str + 10 gwm + D8 smite = 5 x 28,5 = 142 dmg / first round boosted by 5 smites around 5x 3d8 = 142+67 = ~210 dmg
- monk: 4 attacks hasted +2 flurry offhand = 6 on D8 unarmed + 5 dex + D4 elemental + 4 wis = 6*16 = 96 dmg
- warlock: 2 attacks hasted on D10 blast + 5 cha + D6 hex = 2 * 3 * 14 = 82
- rogue: 2 attacks hasted, 2 bonus actions, one sneak possible: on D6 shortsword + 5 dex + 2 magic = 2 x 10,5 + 2x 5,5 + 5d6 sneak = 42+21 = 53

Fighter classes do in general about 3 times the dmg of a rogue and even warlock / monk have about double the dmg.

There are some multiclass ideas like rogue / ranger gloomstalker to get a garuanteed first hit critical and abusing the bad combat system to silently take out weaker enemies with crits.

Ranger alone I very much enjoyed in Div2. I later mixed it with Rogue which made it more enjoyable and I felt like it fit well in my RP world. I'll probs do the same here in BG3.
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Sir_Baldur Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:24am 
Race will impact how other NPC's treat you. Background will determine what actions inspire you (give you a bonus role) and will give you unique dialogue options.

You can increase your stats by 2 every 4 levels - or pick a feat.

If Larian allowed us to roll stats then I'd play around with feats more. Since that's not the case we are left to using armor to plug any stat gaps or use the increase at level 4/8/12.
Close Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:30am 
So far my furthest go has just stepped into act 2, I have 15 characters on the go lol, restart mate, its good for your soul
Elfie Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by Lodreus:
I know about the dead lookin guy but my question is on race and background. Does it have a huge impact or not?

It SOMETIMES, very rarely gives you an alternative option in dialogue that changes nothing, and some NPC's may have different generic greeting to you. Nothing more.

Nothing like it was in Dragon Age 2 for example, where being an elf literally meant getting disrespect from everyone.
Last edited by Elfie; Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:41am
Jean-Maurice Nya Aug 23, 2023 @ 6:58am 
We finished with friends with a party of 4 Druids in Tactician just for fun. "Better" build is not required, just understanding how mechanics work to use them at your advantage and abuse them.
Races and backgrounds have their mechanics, so you need to understand how a rogue tiefling can take advantage of mechanics.

A thief rogue will rely on high mobility which is... not that important.
An assassin rogue will rely on surprise for massive sneak damages and initiative with an advantage on attack rolls. This class shines early in fights and can consistently hit with the right proficiencies.
An arcane trickster rogue will rely on spells, mostly to defend and support. As it goes to spell level 2, you don't have much to do with that, except when you reach level 9 and can give a disadvantage to saving throw to ennemies for being hidden.

The rogue class is pretty weak overall, far from what we expect from people attacking you from the shadow to inflict a lot of critical hits.
Abisha Aug 23, 2023 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Elfie:
Originally posted by Lodreus:
I know about the dead lookin guy but my question is on race and background. Does it have a huge impact or not?

It SOMETIMES, very rarely gives you an alternative option in dialogue that changes nothing, and some NPC's may have different generic greeting to you. Nothing more.

Nothing like it was in Dragon Age 2 for example, where being an elf literally meant getting disrespect from everyone.
yea it's a missed change racism is good in RPG's because it can create tension and makes the game overall more realistic.

only reason i play Elves in DA:O was to make live so miserable possible for humans. because i play as elf.
Gaius Aug 23, 2023 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Lodreus:
I'm still on the first act and don't believe to have gotten far (Last fight was The Hag). I'm playing as a Rogue Tiefling. I chose Tiefling based on RP and appearance. However, the past few fights I feel to be lackin an impact in battles and it's not what I expect from a Rogue class. It might be because I'm so used to how Rogue plays in Div2 and need to take time to adapt. I've only done 19hrs so far.

Question: Does race and background make a big difference? If not, will I be able to improve my stats later on in the game?

You can respect at camp, do NOT restart unless you want other race
katzenkrimis Aug 23, 2023 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Just pay the guy who can respect your character for like 100 gold. Not worth starting over.


Exactly.

I expected to finish the game with three hirelings, since all of the companions were bat sh-- crazy.

Your own character can always be saved.

Just surround him/her with a better SWAT team.
CrazyOdd Aug 23, 2023 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Elfie:
Nothing like it was in Dragon Age 2 for example, where being an elf literally meant getting disrespect from everyone.
You sort of get that with Tiefling and Githyanki, along with other none area based races to lesser degree.
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