Help me upgrade!

[dylanhurst2000]

Hi all.

i bought this game a few days ago because "game debate" said id be able to run this game on my "RX 570 8GB" with graphics on high and get about 60 fps, that was not true.

the tutorial section of the game ran fine, with about 40fps to 50fps, but once i got to the "Ravaged Beach" my FPS tanked to about 10, consistently, and crashes about 3 -4 times. ive now turned my graphics to "very low" and the game still stutter while not going above 20fps.

so i want to upgrade my computer to be-able to run the game reliably on at least low settings, however, im on a budget of about $200, anyone know what i should upgrade to run the game?



OS: Windows 10 64bit
CPU; AMD Ryzen 5 1400
RAM; 8GB
GRAPHICS; RX 570 DELL


will upgrading my RAM to 16GB and my card to a 580 be enough, please give me some recommendations

(the "Game Debate" article i mentioned above)
https://www.game-debate.com/low-vs-ultra-graphics-settings/20906-baldurs-gate-3/3878-radeon-rx-570-8gb#:~:text=Booting%20up%20Baldurs%20Gate%203%20with%20the%206,a%20reliable%2048%20FPS%20in%201440p%20screen%20res.

[haasi]

with only 200 id recommend going all out on a gpu, pref used so youll get more out of it, but ideally you would upgrade everything cause that cpu will drag behind. Im not sure about us prices on used cards but maybe a gtx 1080?

Upgrading the cpu would mean upgrading the mobo as well and with that budget i have no idea how well it would go

for clarification, upgrade ram to 16gb and go all out on a gpu, 1080 - 1080 ti is really the best bang for your buck in this price range

( ram costs nothing used but make sure the new ram is the same that you already have, mixing different types of ram causes a plethora of weird problems, preferably just sell the old 8gb stick and buy a combo of 2x8 or 1x16)

[Black-X]

I believe you can find used 1080 ti for around 200-250. Alternatively, you can try using FSR. Should help you with fps a little bit

[raμza84]

According also to this website https://pc-builds.com/fps-calculator/result/0MgZ4B/3s/baldurs-gate-3/1920x1080/ you should get better much better performance with those components. Of course these sites cannot be trusted blindly, but the difference here is huge. 10 fps on very low?!
Maybe your problem is somewhere else

[Gaius]

I'd spend a bit in a RAM upgrade to 16g and then try again and check for the bottleneck. Depending on what country you live, thet could be pretty cheap, as long as you motherboard has the open slot.

[magickblog]

Dual-channel memory is effective for game FPS improvement. You should first add a 8gb RAM of the same size (8+8=16). Then lower the shadow settings in the game and lower the other effects a bit as well to try and see if you can be satisfied. This is all under the premise of 1080p screen settings.

In fact, the minimum recommended graphics card configuration for the game is generally gtx1060 = rx590. But rx570 is nothing more than a little lowering of the corresponding effects or special effects configuration.

[DCRWrites]

I ran the game for two years or so with 16GB of RAM and an 8GB RX580 and I was averaging about 25-30 FPS in the majority of the game. All else being equal, going from a 570 to a 580 won't do you much good--maybe 10% improvement which is a terrible deal for $200.

If you can go a little higher than $200, I picked up an RX 6600 for $220 about a month ago and that really helped my frame rates and graphics quality a lot. That's where I would put my money.

[KeepCleaving]

Originally posted by DCRWrites:

I ran the game for two years or so with 16GB of RAM and an 8GB RX580 and I was averaging about 25-30 FPS in the majority of the game. All else being equal, going from a 570 to a 580 won't do you much good--maybe 10% improvement which is a terrible deal for $200.

If you can go a little higher than $200, I picked up an RX 6600 for $220 about a month ago and that really helped my frame rates and graphics quality a lot. That's where I would put my money.

This guy has some good advice. check facebook Market place, kijiji, ebay for used graphic cards. After the fall of crypto, they are flooding the used market. And a used gpu (even a crypto miner) retains it's functionality very very well. pickup another 8g of ram. Then my man.. do your best to upgrade your mobo+cpu later on, it's all gotta be upgraded but that's the order I would go with.

[Malus]

Everyone saying upgrade RAM first is right. 16 is the lowest. go for 32. Then worry about GPU.

Toms Hardware site has pretty good GPU ranks and price points.

Your PC is weak but just upgrade as you can. When you can. RL bills matter more.

Good luck bro.

[haasi]

do NOT go for a card thats been used for mining if at all possible, they do NOT retain their functionality well, those cards have been punished full load 24/7.

[Cirrus]

Originally posted by Malus:

Everyone saying upgrade RAM first is right. 16 is the lowest. go for 32. Then worry about GPU.

Toms Hardware site has pretty good GPU ranks and price points.

Your PC is weak but just upgrade as you can. When you can. RL bills matter more.

Good luck bro.

That is absolutely horrible advice. This game or 99,8% of other games in world do not need 32gb ram.

When you really tight budget 32gb is horrible waste of money.

Ryzen 5 1400 is horrible gaming CPU. I fear that it is bottlenecking also.

Without thorough bottleneck investigations I can not dedice which upgrade direction. Tools like hwinfo64 can tell you these things.

[KeepCleaving]

Originally posted by haasi:

do NOT go for a card thats been used for mining if at all possible, they do NOT retain their functionality well, those cards have been punished full load 24/7.

Are you saying this with experience?
https://youtu.be/UFytB3bb1P8
LInus has done a fair bit of testing on used crypto mining gpu's. Even while thoroughly used at full load, they RETAIN their functionality. Sometimes I swear you just kneejerk comment everything without doing some background checks.

[haasi]

Originally posted by KeepCleaving:

Originally posted by haasi:

do NOT go for a card thats been used for mining if at all possible, they do NOT retain their functionality well, those cards have been punished full load 24/7.

Are you saying this with experience?
https://youtu.be/UFytB3bb1P8
LInus has done a fair bit of testing on used crypto mining gpu's. Even while thoroughly used at full load, they RETAIN their functionality. Sometimes I swear you just kneejerk comment everything without doing some background checks.

if you watched the whole video, in the beginning linus mentions to remain sceptical and to favour non-mined cards.
obviously if the card works, it works.

if linking bits out of context so your claims make more sense isnt "kneejerking" i dont know what is.
Does revving a car engine at full revs at all times maintain the engines functionality? Yes should you buy such an engine? No

good video btw, everyone should watch the entirety of it, not just the bits they favour.

[KeepCleaving]

Originally posted by haasi:

Originally posted by KeepCleaving:

Are you saying this with experience?
https://youtu.be/UFytB3bb1P8
LInus has done a fair bit of testing on used crypto mining gpu's. Even while thoroughly used at full load, they RETAIN their functionality. Sometimes I swear you just kneejerk comment everything without doing some background checks.

if you watched the whole video, in the beginning linus mentions to remain sceptical and to favour non-mined cards.
obviously if the card works, it works.

if linking bits out of context so your claims make more sense isnt "kneejerking" i dont know what is.
Does revving a car engine at full revs at all times maintain the engines functionality? Yes should you buy such an engine? No

good video btw, everyone should watch the entirety of it, not just the bits they favour.

Me linking the whole video isn't linking anything out of context. Also the wear and tear on a videocard is not even close to the same wear as a car. You guessed, I provided proof of the opposite. It's a no brainer, EVERYONE would rather by a fresh gpu over a used gpu given they are the same price.

The testing proved in the video shows that the retained functionality of used GPUs (even crypto mine gpu's) is virtually unnoticeable.

[dolby]

better gpu i guess, what depands on what you can get and at what price... and that hit to frames is weird btw... mayeb something else is going on i mean hardly enough info to help you we dont even know at what resolution you are playing...

[haasi]

Originally posted by KeepCleaving:

Originally posted by haasi:

if you watched the whole video, in the beginning linus mentions to remain sceptical and to favour non-mined cards.
obviously if the card works, it works.

if linking bits out of context so your claims make more sense isnt "kneejerking" i dont know what is.
Does revving a car engine at full revs at all times maintain the engines functionality? Yes should you buy such an engine? No

good video btw, everyone should watch the entirety of it, not just the bits they favour.

Me linking the whole video isn't linking anything out of context. Also the wear and tear on a videocard is not even close to the same wear as a car. You guessed, I provided proof of the opposite. It's a no brainer, EVERYONE would rather by a fresh gpu over a used gpu given they are the same price.

The testing proved in the video shows that the retained functionality of used GPUs (even crypto mine gpu's) is virtually unnoticeable.

you intentionally linked the video at a time that suited your narrative, the whole video paints a different view on the subject, so disingenuous.