Balthazar fight is an abomination.

[mors_orcusjb]

Game is great. Truly awesome so far.

But this fight is complete bs. way to many minions he just summons out of his ass. he does way to much damage. (lvl 8 party). Larian does great but they do a truly terrible job of tuning their games sometimes. Divinity was the same way. Why they don't give you the chance for overlevelling (I went through the underforge and went back through the mountain pass) to do anything is beyond me. They're should be half as many minios in this fight and he should do half the damage he does. Terrible fight.

[Hobocop]

Originally posted by Cannon Fodder:

Originally posted by Pizza_Force:

Silence and turn undead are your friend.

No they aren't. He can WALK out of the silence sphere, and has advantage (which means you have to savescum) to turn undead...

Where are you all getting this "SILENCE AND TURN UNDEAD, EASY" crap from?
I cast silence and he just walks out of it, casts his 50 spells, and spawns more aggros. And unless you're save scumming or outrageously lucky, good luck with Turn Undead, he has baked in advantage against it.

You can shoot him with Arcane Interference arrows or use a Sussur weapon as I did to apply silence directly to forehead.

And Turn Undead isn't for him. It's for his minions.

[Flatearth_aintnoplanetx]

Originally posted by mors_orcusjb:

Game is great. Truly awesome so far.

But this fight is complete bs. way to many minions he just summons out of his ass. he does way to much damage. (lvl 8 party). Larian does great but they do a truly terrible job of tuning their games sometimes. Divinity was the same way. Why they don't give you the chance for overlevelling (I went through the underforge and went back through the mountain pass) to do anything is beyond me. They're should be half as many minios in this fight and he should do half the damage he does. Terrible fight.

I beat him pretty easily

[smetch]

I used telekenisis to move him near the edge and pushed him off, he didn't even get a turn.
In a previous save I killed him by using mobility spells/skills to stay on him and nuke him down.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Not for his ass but from all the bone piles he has around, if you wanna super cheese it you can skein and throw the bones off the platform then it's just him lol

[Estevan Valladares]

Well, if you really need to be told this:
Balth minions are not fighting you, at first, they fight the Dark Justiciar Ghosts.
Simply sneak up the door and it will open and aggro his minions.
Then the fight spurs, you hide in his room and let him and his minions fight the Dark Ghosts.
At the end, he will be the only one standing, or he and the big abomination.
At this point he wont be aggressive yet.
Get your group close to him, and instead of talking and making all that scene, Simply sneak up, attack, and if your group is spread he will aggro one each time.
Go attacking him with each member as they go aggroing him, by the time he has a go, he will be almost dead, and probably will have tome for one cloudkill if you were kind enough to not shush him before he can.
Probably in the second bout he is dead, and as soon as he dies, the big ugly idiot will be much more manageable.
Again:
https://youtu.be/B3jKpN0AnQw

[Hyttemaier]

You can get hes bell for the big golem, go use that golem when you do the temple, let it die and he wont have that one when you face him.

[PocketYoda]

I read that title in Lae'zels voice.

[Thadeus]

Originally posted by raμza84:

Get used to it, 4 vs 20 is the standard

Plus at least one of your party members gets nuked in the very first turn.

[TVMAN]

Shadowheart + turn undead + spirit guardians + radiant damage

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by TVMAN:

Shadowheart + turn undead + spirit guardians + radiant damage

Silence Spells.

[DireAct]

Get Gale to use Minor Elemental Conjuration for ice imps or w/e they are (Or if you created a wizard). Have Karlach deal with Balthazar she can hit twice i was using the light of creation spear, took her 2-3 turns to fully kill him. Use the Ice elementals to prone everything with the ice breath and your wizard to use fireball on groups of enemies that aren't prone, shadowheart for heals/conditions, my Fiancee is playing a Ranger so we had Ursa the Bear to be able to Goad a lot of the enemies as well and scratch to do some minor damage.

We actually brute forced this fight, we lost once but our strategy was to keep the range up on the platform before you jump down to the main one, had karlach/shadowheart/Ursa/2 Ice elementals to tank most of the stuff in their while her ranger picked stuff off and my Wizard took out entire groups with Fireball.

The only REAL threats in this fight is Blathazar himself, he hits pretty hard on your squishier targets and if you get unlucky he uses 2 beams on one of your mages/ranges you're in for a bad time. Sleep from the Mages on his side constantly and the big dudes prioritise PUSHING your dudes off the edge. Good luck its actually a fun and tough fight.

The game has created ways for you to cheese it before the actual fight but what fun is that, you also miss out on a lot of exp from the actual fight.

[Xenu]

Level 4-5, Fireballs are your friend.
Act 2 boss was way way more difficult.
Cheesed Balt super quick. Check your planning

[Kafik]

Originally posted by Nordil(Hun):

Originally posted by tsundoku81:

really? ... interesting.

I think it depends whether you persuaded him to lend you Flesh:P If you got the bell to summon the golem, Balthazar cannot really count on him right?

That's my thought too, I didn't think that people don't have to find Balthazar before Yurgir.

[Elfie]

I really fail to understand how this fight can be hard if your party is at least moderately well-built.

Just aoe everything. If you struggle - use troll horn, scrolls, potions, bomb - you should have plenty since there were no real challenges prior to that.

But really just 2 lvl 8 wizards/sorcs will be enough.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Xenu:

Level 4-5, Fireballs are your friend.
Act 2 boss was way way more difficult.
Cheesed Balt super quick. Check your planning

Probs the OP is typical physical party enjoyer. Sadly melee in this game have no big AoEs, so they suck vs undead.