Pickpocketing

[Gort The Serf]

Why is it that whenever i pickpocket someone and I'm hidden, I get a successful roll but after i walk away i get confronted by another npc about stealing even though no one saw me and i passed the skill check ??

[Brain Dead]

Invisibility is your friend. Go invisible, steal, send whatever you took to camp, then go on with your day.

[Brain Dead]

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

Originally posted by 28th|MBz:

Thanks for the insight, you're such a god gamer. It must be hard being so smart.

No, it's pretty easy. But you would know that if you weren't a bad gamer.

Just a tip on stealing from merchants. Withers can't have negative approval of you. You can pickpocket him unlimited times. Even if you fail, you can just try again. In that sense. Hirelings and revivals are free.

[John Cena]

Originally posted by 28th|MBz:

Why is it that whenever i pickpocket someone and I'm hidden, I get a successful roll but after i walk away i get confronted by another npc about stealing even though no one saw me and i passed the skill check ??

A successful pickpocket is just that. You reached into their pocket and took out an item (how their pockets can contain swords or armor IDK) and weren't caught reaching into their pocket.

What happens is after a set amount of time - it's around a minute I think - the NPC notices the missing item and will start asking around or alert the guards.

To resolve this you can enter dialogue with the NPC you want to steal from, steal as much as you can, and then run away. The NPC will either ask the innocent party members or summon guards to ask the innocent party members.

With your thief hiding in a corner somewhere you won't be caught and get away scott free.

[John Cena]

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

maybe say something constructive to your questioning about pickpockets in game.

Follow your own advice.

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

Originally posted by 28th|MBz:

I stole from someone called memnos and was confronted by another Female NPC but okay guy .

I've stolen from every merchant in this game, guy. I guess you're just bad.

[Deri]

Originally posted by Brain Dead:

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

No, it's pretty easy. But you would know that if you weren't a bad gamer.

Just a tip on stealing from merchants. Withers can't have negative approval of you. You can pickpocket him unlimited times. Even if you fail, you can just try again. In that sense. Hirelings and revivals are free.

Actually, Wither has a very negative approval of you if you steal from him but he bottles it down and doesn't let it effect your character in game.

[Deri]

Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

maybe say something constructive to your questioning about pickpockets in game.

Follow your own advice.

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

I've stolen from every merchant in this game, guy. I guess you're just bad.

I will follow my advice. What question did I ask about pickpocket that I need to reply with something constructive to get my point across?

Or am I just replying to trolls for my own enjoyment the same way trolls want to act like they know me for their own enjoyment and satisfaction.

[John Cena]

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

I will follow my advice.

This is your first response.

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

Maybe don't lie about what's happening or we can't actually help you with your problem.

Other npc's will not confront you for stealing from someone else.

This is incorrect. Other NPCs do confront you for stealing from someone else. They are known as guards. Even other merchants will confront you like in Moonrise.

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

What question did I ask about pickpocket that I need to reply with something constructive to get my point across?

This doesn't make sense. At all. Why would you reply to your own question?

[Gort The Serf]

Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:

Originally posted by 28th|MBz:

Why is it that whenever i pickpocket someone and I'm hidden, I get a successful roll but after i walk away i get confronted by another npc about stealing even though no one saw me and i passed the skill check ??

A successful pickpocket is just that. You reached into their pocket and took out an item (how their pockets can contain swords or armor IDK) and weren't caught reaching into their pocket.

What happens is after a set amount of time - it's around a minute I think - the NPC notices the missing item and will start asking around or alert the guards.

To resolve this you can enter dialogue with the NPC you want to steal from, steal as much as you can, and then run away. The NPC will either ask the innocent party members or summon guards to ask the innocent party members.

With your thief hiding in a corner somewhere you won't be caught and get away scott free.

Definitely trying this lol. Thanks!

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

Originally posted by 28th|MBz:

Why is it that whenever i pickpocket someone and I'm hidden, I get a successful roll but after i walk away i get confronted by another npc about stealing even though no one saw me and i passed the skill check ??

In most cases (I'm still on 1st playthrough and not delve too deep to invest in a full stealth/assassin/pickpocket role yet) only using MP bard stuck in my party with +10 stealth and +11 Sleigh of Hands - you will get spotted after pickpocket despite successful BECAUSE the obscure factor, the little white sun you see next to your cursor when you stealth.

Most of the situation its full sun - meaning you're fully visible and UN-OBSCURED, so when the vision cone of npcs swoop in your direction you're immediately spotted (unless high stealth then dex save roll may succeed), and because IT IS FULL SUN also means you're completely exposed so when u pickpocket successfully and start running away far the npc will react and either chase you, find guard chase you or run away hide then come back depends.

Half sun means HALF or SLIGHTLY OBSCURED, simply means npcs harder to expose you when vision cone swoop your direction and less likely get call out after pickpocket.

No sun (black inside the sun), means FULLY OBSCURED, meaning vision cone scan you won't expose you, nobody can see you but this instance is practically impossible in ACT 1 and ACT 3 where there's mostly daylight - the weather and lighting in environment goes into play on this obscure factor as well.

So if you plan to pickpocket a trader next time, see if you can turn off as many lights as possible around target (also not get spotted doing so, thus won't raise suspicion and drop attitude)

I also found out in ACT 3 not tested previously after pickpocket and npc react to pickpocket, whoever you used to steal teleport him/her/it to camp and stay a minute then leave camp, that will wipe suspicion on that character. It'll also helps position your other characters by break up party and pos them randomly near trader so npc will react to them first instead of the one you use to pickpocket - which is helpful because those not involved in doing the stealing can simply responded with "I don't know what you're talking about"

[RasaNova]

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

Originally posted by 28th|MBz:

I stole from someone called memnos and was confronted by another Female NPC but okay guy .

I've stolen from every merchant in this game, guy. I guess you're just bad.

No, I've seen it to. Maybe you're doing something different if it's never happened to you, I don't know, but I have seen others come up to me after a successful pickpocketing.

[Deri]

Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:

Other npc's will not confront you for stealing from someone else.

This is incorrect. Other NPCs do confront you for stealing from someone else. They are known as guards. Even other merchants will confront you like in Moonrise.

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if you read earlier posts it was too my understanding based on my experience that no other NPC will confront you for stealing from a merchant. It has never happened to me and that's with my experience of stealing from every merchant possible. If I am wrong, than I cleared all odds of it happening to me. I must be lucky.

I am only quoting this from your post because I don't understand you, and refuse to try. Take care.

[Deri]

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

I've stolen from every merchant in this game, guy. I guess you're just bad.

No, I've seen it to. Maybe you're doing something different if it's never happened to you, I don't know, but I have seen others come up to me after a successful pickpocketing.

Because you replied politely I will respond. I have never had an npc confront me because I stole from a different merchat; this thread is also the first I am hearing of it. I guess it's something that has not happened to me in my 70h of game play. Maybe it will. Though it seems I was wrong about something that I have yet to experience in the game.

thanks for your reply confirming op's topic.

[John Cena]

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

if you read earlier posts it was too my understanding based on my experience that no other NPC will confront you for stealing from a merchant. It has never happened to me and that's with my experience of stealing from every merchant possible. If I am wrong, than I cleared all odds of it happening to me. I must be lucky.

This was your response. You weren't inquisitive. You accused OP of lying. You have no proof they actually lied. You didn't ask them how they got confronted. Worst of all, you are 100% incorrect.

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

Maybe don't lie about what's happening or we can't actually help you with your problem.
Other npc's will not confront you for stealing from someone else.

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

I don't understand you, and refuse to try. Take care.

Ok.

[Mazzle Dazzle]

I just steal and return to camp. I wait a few minutes and then come back and all risk of getting caught goes away. I also sometimes use disguise self and steal using a specific disguise in case it goes awry.

[Gort The Serf]

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Originally posted by SpaceiSalie:

I've stolen from every merchant in this game, guy. I guess you're just bad.

No, I've seen it to. Maybe you're doing something different if it's never happened to you, I don't know, but I have seen others come up to me after a successful pickpocketing.

Yep exactly not sure why i would even lie about it lol. Ive just been entering turnbased stealing then mist step far away exit TB mode then travel to camp although i didnt realize youd have to go through all these steps just to not get confronted I posted this thinking it was a bug but seems its intentional gameplay, and since im not a fan of savescumming we'll see how long it last before it gets tedious ill have to give invisibility a try now people have mentioned it I just need a party member who can cast it, i guess i'll go find gale lol