Nerf the Fireball

[𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖]

There’s absolutely no reason not to use it and it will kill everything instantly, especially if you have grease it can instantly kill and make people trip and it blows people away too it’s just too powerful so pleased nerf

[FhqwhTODD]

You see Fireball on level up and you take it. It's the rules.

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by Recjawjind:

Originally posted by Glyph:

I can think of many, many enemies who have more than 6d6 hp.

Its 8d6 but still true.
Fireball is a classic, staple spell. Its good, but its not "op"
If you wanna look at third level spells that are "op", look no further than haste.

Haste is so damn good. Twin spell cast it with your sorcerer, have the cleric cast sanctuary on the sorcerer, and now you win.

[LordAnubis]

Actually Fireball is super OP in BG3 because BG3 doesn't limit you to casting a single spell each round of level 1 or higher. You can't do this in tabletop as there is a very specific rule that says you can only ever cast a single leveled spell (so anything except a cantrip) once per round, regardless of how many actions you have.

So in BG3, a Sorcerer can use their regular action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then their haste action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then quicken an upleveled Fireball and do more damage than any other class in the game (moreso if they are a Draconic Sorcerer--red/gold/brass bloodline--who can add their CHA modifier to the damage of each enemy hit).

[𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

THis dude is only on these forums crying like a little ♥♥♥♥♥ about spells.
"WHA MISTY STEP IS BROKEN BECAUSE YOU GET LIKE 2 ITEMS THAT ALLOW YOU TO CAST IT"
"WHA FIREBALL THE INTENTIONALLY OVERPOWERED SPELL IS OVERPOWERED"

Yeah they need to be nerfed they’re super bad

[𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖]

Originally posted by LordAnubis:

Actually Fireball is super OP in BG3 because BG3 doesn't limit you to casting a single spell each round of level 1 or higher. You can't do this in tabletop as there is a very specific rule that says you can only ever cast a single leveled spell (so anything except a cantrip) once per round, regardless of how many actions you have.

So in BG3, a Sorcerer can use their regular action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then their haste action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then quicken an upleveled Fireball and do more damage than any other class in the game (moreso if they are a Draconic Fire-bloodline Sorcerer who can add their CHA modifier to the damage of each enemy hit).

I agree

[xposethedarkside]

Originally posted by LordAnubis:

Actually Fireball is super OP in BG3 because BG3 doesn't limit you to casting a single spell each round of level 1 or higher. You can't do this in tabletop as there is a very specific rule that says you can only ever cast a single leveled spell (so anything except a cantrip) once per round, regardless of how many actions you have.

So in BG3, a Sorcerer can use their regular action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then their haste action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then quicken an upleveled Fireball and do more damage than any other class in the game (moreso if they are a Draconic Fire-bloodline Sorcerer who can add their CHA modifier to the damage of each enemy hit).

The thing I don't understand is why the OP is complaining about it. These are things that benefit the player. Most people when they complain, complain about things being used against them, like the so many why do I always miss while enemies always critical threads.
But this one seems backwards, or am I just reading it wrong?

[kramatt]

You do not have to use it you know :-) Easy as that :-)
I am actually using it sparsely. It is powerful? YES, but its also quite expensive on lower levels and its usefulness varies depending on the encounter. It might also be very dangerous for your party unless you play Evocation Wizard. I actually find myself using 3rd level spell slots on Counterspell, Haste, Slow and Stinking Cloud more often than on Fireball.

[Grimmsch]

Fire resistance is one of the most common resistances.
Haste on the other hand works for up to 10 rounds.

[Tio Taveira]

Be glad there's no Skulltrap

[buttawise]

Fireball is indeed a lot of fun to use.

[Tinkuwu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Gs8WTddI4&ab_channel=JoCat

[Kevin Ryan]

Originally posted by Midnight Ushiro:

There’s absolutely no reason not to use it and it will kill everything instantly, especially if you have grease it can instantly kill and make people trip and it blows people away too it’s just too powerful so pleased nerf

There are many reasons not to use it.

1. It's a level 3 spell. That's a valuable spell slot for emergencies or hyper specific needs and you should not be using it for every single encounter. Besides, AoE in a pinch is why you carry smokepowder barrels.

2. Friendly fire. Avoiding this means you basically have to be an evocation wizard. If you don't want to be an evocation wizard, then friendly fire in and of itself is a check on Fireball's power.

3. You don't want to blow something up or burn someone that you'll want to interact with after the fight.

4. It's a level 3 spell. Oh sorry....did I already mention that?

What I meant was --

5. It's a level 3 spell.

Shoot. I meant to say --

6. It's a level 3 spell.

Like the grease/fire combo? Firebolt.
Or an alchemist fire.

Or literally anything else that won't take up a level 3 spell slot unnecessarily.

Like ---- literally a candle will do it. lol

[Slithy]

Imagine thinking Fireball is the best and never embracing Chain Lightning eliminating entire groups in a single cast.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by LordAnubis:

Actually Fireball is super OP in BG3 because BG3 doesn't limit you to casting a single spell each round of level 1 or higher. You can't do this in tabletop as there is a very specific rule that says you can only ever cast a single leveled spell (so anything except a cantrip) once per round, regardless of how many actions you have.

So in BG3, a Sorcerer can use their regular action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then their haste action to cast an upleveled Fireball, then quicken an upleveled Fireball and do more damage than any other class in the game (moreso if they are a Draconic Fire-bloodline Sorcerer who can add their CHA modifier to the damage of each enemy hit).

For clarity: That specific rule only applies to levelled spells that you cast as a Bonus Action, instead of a regular one, limiting you to cantrips for your Action.

[Yagger]

Originally posted by Tio Taveira:

Be glad there's no Skulltrap

bring back skulltrap