Baldur's Gate 3

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Daryl Aug 21, 2023 @ 1:48am
Is there any great class to mix with Necromancer?
like would a Paladin Necromancer be like a "Death Knight"
or stuff like that?

any good combos? or is a pure Necromancer wizard a good path?
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orthostatic Aug 21, 2023 @ 1:52am 
Not sure, but starting out I'd say a Necro would best be served by the most efficient killing machine possible, so maybe a vengeance paladin as a starting friend? I'm sure there are some other great ideas too, but baby necros look weak af and probably need some babysitting.
Tachyon Aug 21, 2023 @ 1:53am 
I have a Cleric companion who surprised me by having a couple of Necromancy spells made available at lvl 5, one of which is Animate Dead. The companion had been a vanilla Cleric up to that point. I'm thinking of making a Cleric character and seeing how it turns out if I go with Necromancy.
Saint Anger Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:06am 
I just started a Drow Necromancer now. I went with Noble For Background and I took a 1 level dip in cleric(Nature, Lolth and spiders you know :P) I get Heavy Armor from that, so I can dump Dex. I got the Sanctuary spell and I chose the Thorn Whip as my Druid Candrip. Also got proficiency with Nature, so now I got 4 of the 5 Int skills, Perception and Persuasion. I Didn't pick Religion, cause he's a diehard Lolth follower :P

I think this can be a very fun character to play as my first Drow Character ^^
Punished Jeremy Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by orthostatic:
Not sure, but starting out I'd say a Necro would best be served by the most efficient killing machine possible, so maybe a vengeance paladin as a starting friend? I'm sure there are some other great ideas too, but baby necros look weak af and probably need some babysitting.
Doesnt picking up paladin as your second class swear you into an oath?

Oathbreaker does sound like it would work well with necromancer
Oathbreaker for sure, it will also allow you to wear some good looking heavy armour you get in act 2 that fits the necromancer theme.
Also Aura of hate is exclusively for undead and fiends (A feature that Oathbreaker paladin gets.) Paladins can also use wizard spell slots for smites.

(At least that's how it works for warlocks)
Last edited by Pork-free Bacon (Michael); Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:35am
orthostatic Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:36am 
Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:
Oathbreaker does sound like it would work well with necromancer

Yeah, though it appears that you can skip the whole Oathbreaker thing by just ignoring the NPC who shows up after a time. (Mine showed up when I let Astarion ultravamp) The spells you get as an "official" oathbreaker don't seem to matter at all, while you get to keep all the good stuff derived from oaths to begin with.

Ultimately it'll boil down to self-enforcement with RP if that's your thing.
Originally posted by orthostatic:
Originally posted by Punished Jeremy:
Oathbreaker does sound like it would work well with necromancer

Yeah, though it appears that you can skip the whole Oathbreaker thing by just ignoring the NPC who shows up after a time. (Mine showed up when I let Astarion ultravamp) The spells you get as an "official" oathbreaker don't seem to matter at all, while you get to keep all the good stuff derived from oaths to begin with.

Ultimately it'll boil down to self-enforcement with RP if that's your thing.

I don't think that's true, if you break your oath you get a condition that makes you unable to use channel divinities and if you wanna reforge your oath you need to pay gold to reforge it and it scales based on the amount of times you broke it. (Broke Ancients about 4 times and it reached about 1k gold and swapped to Vengeance from that point onward.)
Last edited by Pork-free Bacon (Michael); Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:43am
ProestUnicorn Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:45am 
Depends whether You are looking for ''I want to be OP and win every fight in 1-3 rounds'' or ''I want to be a necromancer edge lord for lore''

The OP version would be going for 5lvls of paladin oathbreaker for dark theme, adding 5 levels of warlock path of the blade for even darker theme and then pursuing necronomicon quest, while still having 2 levels to choose, keep in mind to respec into full CHA and minimal DEX and STR, with high CON and rest into WIS or INT, the idea is that paladin scales from CHA, and weapon bond from warlock turns CHA into your fighting stat as well.

The Necromancer for flavour, still pursue necronomicon quest and I would propose Spore Druid for many, many, MANY summons, free summons per turn as a bonus action, necrotic damage and that creepy fungal zombie vibes, but to be honest pure necromancer wizard

Necromancer wizard is ironically the worst necromancer among everything else in the game and it doesn't mix well, since wizards use INT for spells instead of charisma/wisdom, I would keep it pure if You want to play it.
Last edited by ProestUnicorn; Aug 21, 2023 @ 2:47am
orthostatic Aug 21, 2023 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Pork-free Bacon (Michael):
I don't think that's true, if you break your oath you get a condition that makes you unable to use channel divinities and if you wanna reforge your oath you need to pay gold to reforge it and it scales based on the amount of times you broke it. (Broke Ancients about 4 times and it reached about 1k gold and swapped to Vengeance from that point onward.)

My first run was Laezel who I made paladin the moment I got Withers in camp. She went from levels 5-12 as a vengeance paladin or whatever, all was well. Then we did Astarion's quest and I let him ascend as "ultramaga Bill Compton" ;) at which point the Oathbreaker NPC appeared to me: "We need to talk next time you're at camp."

So the dude sat in camp for the next several long rests. I did a number of other quests while ignoring him, then I finally spoke to him. He told me I was an oathbreaker and that I had done a bad bad thing. I accepted it in the dialog, and the game appeared to replace some abilities with others. However, I still had all of my on-hit casts like Divine Smite and whatever the other yellow one is called, so I saw the transition from Paladin to oathbreaker rather unpronounced.

Not saying you're wrong, or even that I'm right. Just describing what I experienced, and what I bothered to remember of what I experienced. Perhaps the abilities I lost were abilities I wasn't using. dunno
Empukris Aug 21, 2023 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by ProestUnicorn:
Depends whether You are looking for ''I want to be OP and win every fight in 1-3 rounds'' or ''I want to be a necromancer edge lord for lore''

The OP version would be going for 5lvls of paladin oathbreaker for dark theme, adding 5 levels of warlock path of the blade for even darker theme and then pursuing necronomicon quest, while still having 2 levels to choose, keep in mind to respec into full CHA and minimal DEX and STR, with high CON and rest into WIS or INT, the idea is that paladin scales from CHA, and weapon bond from warlock turns CHA into your fighting stat as well.

The Necromancer for flavour, still pursue necronomicon quest and I would propose Spore Druid for many, many, MANY summons, free summons per turn as a bonus action, necrotic damage and that creepy fungal zombie vibes, but to be honest pure necromancer wizard

Necromancer wizard is ironically the worst necromancer among everything else in the game and it doesn't mix well, since wizards use INT for spells instead of charisma/wisdom, I would keep it pure if You want to play it.
Isnt this will be typical 5-5-2 paladin, warlock warrior build?
Abisha Aug 21, 2023 @ 3:16am 
Originally posted by Daryl:
like would a Paladin Necromancer be like a "Death Knight"
or stuff like that?

any good combos? or is a pure Necromancer wizard a good path?

Use a warrior become a reaper?. (not like ""reapers"" but the reaper.
Thadeus Aug 21, 2023 @ 3:20am 
Palalock is the Death Knight.

Oathbreaker Paladin for 6 levels, then rest into Warlock.
Daryl Aug 21, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by Thadeus:
Palalock is the Death Knight.

Oathbreaker Paladin for 6 levels, then rest into Warlock.

oh :O

what would be the Lich King build? xD
y'know.. Arthas being the Lich King from the Wrath of the Lich King intro cinematic.
not the Bolvar Fordragon Lich King who gets dethroned and defeated almost immediately
Markus Reese Aug 21, 2023 @ 7:04pm 
Devil's advocate for the build is something I see in a lot of TTRPG discussions. People want a build, but do you want to play the game as the theme, or just end the game as the theme?

For a necromancer? I think you are probably similar to me with my want to do one in game and do all the raise dead stuff.

If going that route? Then ideally you want the wizard. Wizard at lvl 6 is the only one who can raise more than one dead. No matter how you build, you are not getting zombies until player lvl 5. Plus is the necromancy subclass.

As a play progression, you can focus on debuffing and battlefield control, though actual necromancy skill selections are limited. You do have a decent cantrip in 'bone chill' to fit that initial theme. Your lvl 1 spells is probably the most limiting part of the beginning. One spell being mage armor, and if want to go full on necromancer? Then only other point is false life.

If want the Arthas theme? I would try to minimise the paladin before taking warlock or sorcerer.

Personally I think wizard if just want to have fun with undead.
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