Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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EroticOnion23 Aug 20, 2023 @ 3:19pm
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Boring story...
The main story is as forgettable as Skyrim's...was really hoping for some epic events like the world spanning darkspawn invasion of Dragon Age Origins...instead we just get some minor local conflict.

Totally forgot about the mindflayer plot by the time I got to act 2 lol...while say in DAO the darkspawn were always around the corner if not right in your face...

This game will be tragically forgotten in a few years due to its lackluster characters/story...

EDIT: there's no real discernible plot progression, just gotcha, gotcha, gotcha...as opposed to say in Dragon Age Origins where right off the bat you know EXACTLY what you need to do so the player can perceive and engross themselves into the flow of the story (get the oaths fulfilled, confront Loghain, kill archdemon). LotR is similar (survive and get to mount Doom, destroy the ring). In BG3 it's like random, "go meet this guy, oops he can't help you, maybe go talk to her, ahh she neither, how about him, nope, oh a random mindflayer out of nowhere can save you, problems solved...), very elementary writing...

The last of us (1st one) also had a great story even though the gameplay was outdated even for around 2013. But people loved it and the characters so much there are remakes and remasters every other year (they can even overlook Ellie's LGBTQZM++ and this was in 2013)…hell they even made a TV show out of it…so story is the most important factor for longevity…
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His Divine Shadow Aug 20, 2023 @ 3:21pm 
No u
Mr. Otter Aug 20, 2023 @ 3:49pm 
The story does take a heavy nosedive in Act 3, but I found Act 1 and 2 to be good. The main plot quests are indeed a bit lackluster (with a few exceptions), but almost all the side content is worth doing and entertaining.
EroticOnion23 Aug 20, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Mr. Otter:
The story does take a heavy nosedive in Act 3, but I found Act 1 and 2 to be good. The main plot quests are indeed a bit lackluster (with a few exceptions), but almost all the side content is worth doing and entertaining.

Yea the side quests are better than the main. But still poor compared to say Witcher 3’s…
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Reflexion Aug 20, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
I think it's very similar to the Witcher 3 - which I feel most people here seem to have played and also enjoyed. The main story was, almost in the entirety - Find Ciri and stop the Wild Hunt from taking her. It was everything that WASN'T directly the main story that was brilliant. The Bloody Baron was technically tied to the main story, in as much as he said, "Oh yeah, she was here, but she left." but the true depth wasn't related to Ciri at all, rather the Baron's PTSD and family issues. Similarly, I think BG3 shines brightest when we aren't concerned about magical infected people and are instead exploring the rich world that's indirectly tied to the story.

And if I'm being silly and engaging with your bit of hyperbole, any game that tops the Steam charts and garners the play numbers right now (~650,000 playing atm) isn't going to be tragically forgotten. Game devs don't make posts asking people to "gently push back" against this game as a new standard in video games if it's a forgettable game.
Okay. I do too miss old Bioware, and understand your grief. My condolences on a franchise now lost yo corporate greed.
EroticOnion23 Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Reflexion:
I think it's very similar to the Witcher 3 - which I feel most people here seem to have played and also enjoyed. The main story was, almost in the entirety - Find Ciri and stop the Wild Hunt from taking her. It was everything that WASN'T directly the main story that was brilliant. The Bloody Baron was technically tied to the main story, in as much as he said, "Oh yeah, she was here, but she left." but the true depth wasn't related to Ciri at all, rather the Baron's PTSD and family issues. Similarly, I think BG3 shines brightest when we aren't concerned about magical infected people and are instead exploring the rich world that's indirectly tied to the story.

And if I'm being silly and engaging with your bit of hyperbole, any game that tops the Steam charts and garners the play numbers right now (~650,000 playing atm) isn't going to be tragically forgotten. Game devs don't make posts asking people to "gently push back" against this game as a new standard in video games if it's a forgettable game.

Forgettable as in people will forget this game as soon as a “more polished” game comes along (not hard to due just look at act 3)…the story is what people will truly remember (Planescape, Diablo I/II, Final Fantasy 7/8, etc…)
Malaficus Shaikan Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:02pm 
I enjoyed the story.

My only problem was how overrated the nether brain was.
A threat to all of farun?
Have you been to farun?
There are big bads out there that make the netherbrain look like a dogs chew toy.
The red wizards of thay comes to mind.
Or any of the half a billion liches, dragons, etc.
So many things that would just slaughter the nether brain
The nether brain was a local threat.
Not a world ending one.
And honestly i prefer that.
I am tired of saving the world.
It just makes the world look incompetent when something that can be brought down by 4 idiots is considered a world ending threat.
And lets be honest here.
Adventures need to be idiots to risk there life for spare change.
Reflexion Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by EroticOnion23:
Forgettable as in people will forget this game as soon as a “more polished” game comes along (not hard to due just look at act 3)…the story is what people will truly remember (Planescape, Diablo I/II, Final Fantasy 7/8, etc…)

Honestly speaking, I just doubt that'll happen in the next decade, the way games have gone recently. Even with issues this game is much more polished and well put together than really anything we've gotten lately. Most of my AAA games in the past couple years are cookie cutter re-releases of rehashed IPs where they mash in player retention systems and a MTX system they stole from a competitor. Looking at you, Diablo 4 and Darktide Hell, even look at the examples you listed. Final Fantasy 7 and Diablo 2 were released >20 years ago. And while they were indeed enjoyable, I'm not revisiting them as the 'destroyer of all my current games.'

So I think BG3 will slot nicely into the "wasn't full of MTX, sold without DLCs, fun world and system" and will endure, in my opinion.
El_Sama Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:11pm 
The Story is amazing, the only issue is there is so much content you are likely to not get it all so multiple games are encouraged but no new game +
Jack Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by EroticOnion23:
The main story is as forgettable as Skyrim's...was really hoping for some epic events like the world spanning darkspawn invasion of Dragon Age Origins...instead we just get some minor local conflict.

Totally forgot about the mindflayer plot by the time I got to act 2 lol...while say in DAO the darkspawn were always around the corner if not right in your face...

This game will be tragically forgotten in a few years due to its lackluster characters/story...

I love DAO, but eaven with rose tinted googles the story wasen't quite as epic as you are projecting.
It had it's highlights sure, but much of it are pretty forgettable.
Discl0se Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by EroticOnion23:
Originally posted by Reflexion:
I think it's very similar to the Witcher 3 - which I feel most people here seem to have played and also enjoyed. The main story was, almost in the entirety - Find Ciri and stop the Wild Hunt from taking her. It was everything that WASN'T directly the main story that was brilliant. The Bloody Baron was technically tied to the main story, in as much as he said, "Oh yeah, she was here, but she left." but the true depth wasn't related to Ciri at all, rather the Baron's PTSD and family issues. Similarly, I think BG3 shines brightest when we aren't concerned about magical infected people and are instead exploring the rich world that's indirectly tied to the story.

And if I'm being silly and engaging with your bit of hyperbole, any game that tops the Steam charts and garners the play numbers right now (~650,000 playing atm) isn't going to be tragically forgotten. Game devs don't make posts asking people to "gently push back" against this game as a new standard in video games if it's a forgettable game.

Forgettable as in people will forget this game as soon as a “more polished” game comes along (not hard to due just look at act 3)…the story is what people will truly remember (Planescape, Diablo I/II, Final Fantasy 7/8, etc…)


The only thing I remember from Diablo and II is Deckard Cain saying "Stay a while and listen...", cow levels, and Wirt's Leg. XD
Zef Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by EroticOnion23:
The main story is as forgettable as Skyrim's...was really hoping for some epic events like the world spanning darkspawn invasion of Dragon Age Origins...instead we just get some minor local conflict.

Totally forgot about the mindflayer plot by the time I got to act 2 lol...while say in DAO the darkspawn were always around the corner if not right in your face...

This game will be tragically forgotten in a few years due to its lackluster characters/story...

Comon tell me you are joking.

DAO was a good game but there is nothing so vanilla and unoriginal as "defeating the evil dark horde " trope.

Hell you could say that the absolute is just another deus ex machina but at least more original then DAO's darkspawn horde.

I swear people seem to forget all the other crap that was present in both BG2 and DAO and only remember the good side with rose coloured glasses.

BG3 is better overall then DAO, change my mind.
Last edited by Zef; Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:14pm
EroticOnion23 Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:44pm 
Originally posted by Zef:
Originally posted by EroticOnion23:
The main story is as forgettable as Skyrim's...was really hoping for some epic events like the world spanning darkspawn invasion of Dragon Age Origins...instead we just get some minor local conflict.

Totally forgot about the mindflayer plot by the time I got to act 2 lol...while say in DAO the darkspawn were always around the corner if not right in your face...

This game will be tragically forgotten in a few years due to its lackluster characters/story...

Comon tell me you are joking.

DAO was a good game but there is nothing so vanilla and unoriginal as "defeating the evil dark horde " trope.

Hell you could say that the absolute is just another deus ex machina but at least more original then DAO's darkspawn horde.

I swear people seem to forget all the other crap that was present in both BG2 and DAO and only remember the good side with rose coloured glasses.

BG3 is better overall then DAO, change my mind.

The darkspawn invasion was just the overarching theme tho (a classic “evil horde invasion”)…the stories along the way were great too like the mountain & Denerim sections.

Other games with great stories that are remembered to this day are KotoR & Deus Ex 2000 & Human Revolution…BG3 will NOT be among the group…
StoriesBonesTell Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:45pm 
Im completely opposite im so sick of being the chosen one. Just give me a high fantasy adventure romp
Orion Invictus Aug 20, 2023 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by StoriesBonesTell:
Im completely opposite im so sick of being the chosen one. Just give me a high fantasy adventure romp
Who said you're the chosen one?
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