Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Space Hamster Family Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:31am
Where this game fails (A list)
I have already sung the praise of this game in other places. Basically if Minsc and Boo were not in the game I would not buy. Here is my list:

Jim Cummings not being the voice of Minsc. Matt sounds like the guy from Skyrim who took an arrow to the knee.

Music is good but not phenomenal. Micheal Hoenig or one of his understudies should have continued the musical tradition. The music of BG3 is easily forgotten and not immersive.

No real options or consequences for evil. Alignments are irrelevant and the game is made for a metagamer DnD player who just wants to pick what wins. Nothing you do matters.

Too many unfinished or lack of epilogues. For example: Selling your soul to the devil does nothing in the game. Hoping to get into hell at the end or something please.
Game fails to adept to the creativity of players. Fro example, ACT1. I just wanted to kill some druids. All of sudden it assumes im leading a goblin invasion and half the people in the camp automatically die.

Lore books are lame. words on page vsBG1-2 artistic lore books

Act3 is lacking and unfinished. Try not going to the coronation and finishing quests and you will find out the truth. For example, go to the Iron Throne and watch people and quests disappear from the game forever. Also, go try to go straight to Sarevok and watch a magical severed hand appear in your inventory.

Being able to go to the upper city before the end would have been nice. I wanted to get a Balor Ale at the Three Kegs.

There is also so much emphasis on sexuality in the game that becomes downright ridiculous.

These are just a few things. What would you like to add?
Last edited by Space Hamster Family; Aug 20, 2023 @ 10:32am
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wtiger27 Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:33am 
I would like to add I disagree with every one of your points.
herr_dechse Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:36am 
Nah
Martin Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:39am 
I don't understand the requirements...

If you sold your soul.. well doesn't that make you a warlock?
If you end up in hell, you can always savescum.. or make a new character.. you aren't actually in hell.

Maybe what they could do, is if you fail, ban you permanently from playing the game again or using the forums... That'd make your gaming decisions alot harder.
nuther Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
I would like to add I disagree with every one of your points.

You disagree with the voice of Minsc?

/Full plate and packing steel.
/Go for the eyes Boo!
/Jump on my sword, Evil! I wont be as gentile.
F.O.A.M Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:41am 
no consequences for being evil? dude what game you playing?
played evil dark urge, killed the entire emerald grove. that in itself locked out 1 blacksmith shop in act 3, it removed wyll and karlach because i did something bad, halsin was of the table to since i was evil dark urge all i had to remind me of gale was hes severed hand. after i killed isobel jaheira wanted nothing to do with me. and since isobel died thats 2 less vendors and ofc since i was evil nightsong was offed so there goes a story focused character.
there are PLENTY of consequences to being evil
Runic Tunic Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:43am 
Only part I really agree with is Act 3/ending feeling a bit rushed, unpolished, and unfinished. Which it is. Knowing Larian's M.O. the bugs will be hashed out and the ending/third Act will probably be expanded upon with the release of the Enhanced Edition a year from now. I'm hoping sooner though.

Can't really agree with the rest though. Epilogues and lack of variety are part of the unfinished issues with Act 3 and the ending. Minsc's voice was fine and so was the music, imo.
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Ethanwulf Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:51am 
1- I'd like to see party extended to 6 at least. I use mod and have 8 party members and its very enjoyable to see them talk between each other often and participate in dialogues.
2 - I'd like to have a combat that is not turned based, but rather pause, and then unpause and AI companions do their thing and I do mine. (personal preference)
3 - Choices that lead to romantic outcome colored, so I know what it is. Cause I danced with Wyll and it was fun, but Shadowheart then act like i'm in relationship with him, which was not true. Good that I could explain it to her at least and all is good now.
4 - With xbox controller you can walk like in Dragon Age 3rd person view, but can't do it via keyboard and mouse for some reason.
5 - Customize and make your own hireling.
6 - Change appearance and gender (yes) of origin companions. I know voice remains the same, but I use mod to change them and not bothered by voices.
Last edited by Ethanwulf; Aug 20, 2023 @ 5:51am
Runic Tunic Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by Ethanwulf:
1- I'd like to see party extended to 6 at least. I use mod and have 8 party members and its very enjoyable to see them talk between each other often and participate in dialogues.
2 - I'd like to have a combat that is not turned based, but rather pause, and then unpause and AI companions do their thing and I do mine. (personal preference)
3 - Choices that lead to romantic outcome colored, so I know what it is. Cause I danced with Wyll and it was fun, but Shadowheart then act like i'm in relationship with him, which was not true. Good that I could explain it to her at least and all is good now.
4 - With xbox controller you can walk like in Dragon Age 3rd person view, but can't do it via keyboard and mouse for some reason.
5 - Customize and make your own hireling.
6 - Change appearance and gender (yes) of origin companions. I know voice remains the same, but I use mod to change them and not bothered by voices.
Not trying to ♥♥♥♥ on your complaints but I can tell you right now 1 isn't likely gonna happen without mods, and 2 is never gonna happen officially. 4 companions was made the default for balancing reasons and Larian has stuck to their guns despite it bringing brought up all throughout EA.

Same goes for the second one. Sven/Larian straight up said they will not make BG3 RTWP and have no interest in doing so. It being modded in is pretty unlikely as well because it's only possible when the engine allows it and people tried to do it with DOS2 and gave up. It's quite possible that will be the case for BG3 as well.
Last edited by Runic Tunic; Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:09am
ACS36 Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:28am 
-Very few actual dungeons in the game
-Can go almost any where and pretend you belong there.
-World feels like one massive dungeon with minor quest events in between locations that end up just being one short encounter and done.
-Resting economy is too forgiving. Player is never put under any pressure because they can long rest as frequently as they need to. This leads to dungeons not feeling dangerous.
-Most of the game is dialogue scenes, and searching through empty crates, or walking around.
-Terrible inventory management
-Speed potions are too powerful and too easy to obtain.
-Concentration spells are a liability in the game and easy to break.
-Story gives player too much agency to play both sides with zero consequences.
-Story doesn't really compel you to care about your character or the threat of mind parasites.
-Companion interactions are trite and lack the feeling of building real relationships.
Dopé Contâct Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:31am 
Nah its not like that lmao
Gilmund Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
Music is good but not phenomenal. Micheal Hoenig or one of his understudies should have continued the musical tradition. The music of BG3 is easily forgotten and not immersive.

Better than in most games

Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
No real options or consequences for evil. Alignments are irrelevant and the game is made for a metagamer DnD player who just wants to pick what wins. Nothing you do matters.

Whole parts of the plots are disappearing due to your evil actions, you've probly not seen them

Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
Too many unfinished or lack of epilogues. For example: Selling your soul to the devil does nothing in the game. Hoping to get into hell at the end or something please.

Lots of plots, more polished than most games in that regard.
The way the game stays coherent despite all the actions is probly his biggest quality and way above everything we normally see (for example its way above Bioware games dialogues imho)

Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
Game fails to adept to the creativity of players. Fro example, ACT1. I just wanted to kill some druids. All of sudden it assumes im leading a goblin invasion and half the people in the camp automatically die.

I'm constantly amazed by the amount of different things you can do and how the game has a planned option for what you're doing.
But there is finite written content obviously, its not AI generated dialogue.

Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
Act3 is lacking and unfished. Try not going to the coronation and finishing quests and you will find out the truth. For example, go to the Iron Throne and watch people and quests disappear from the game forever. Also, go try to go straight to Sarevok and watch a magical severed hand appear in your inventory.

I suppose judging the full extent of Act 3 is related to your own previous actions. I may have an idea of the dsiappeared plots if you've killed the entire grove to begin with...

Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
There is also so much emphasis on sexuality in the game that becomes downright ridiculous.

Its okish. You are able to not got there.

Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
These are just a few things. What would you like to add?

There is a lot of hidden content, try not kiling people and a lot of them are giving subquests
styx971 Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by ACS36:
-Very few actual dungeons in the game

-Companion interactions are trite and lack the feeling of building real relationships.
i can understand most of the arguments but this 1? idk sure there could have been more but as someone who romanced astarion there was some great building there if you go towards his 'good' side , the other option i only peaked at for curiosities sake , and it seems less great but still interesting in a more sad way

shadowheart's whole character dev was pretty great as well as a friend too and i feel like laezel was well enough that i hated her at first and she changed to be rather likeable ... everyone else tho i didn't use often enough to really get to know them
Last edited by styx971; Aug 20, 2023 @ 6:56am
Chroniver Aug 20, 2023 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by Space Hamster Family:
Music is good but not phenomenal. Micheal Hoenig or one of his understudies should have continued the musical tradition. The music of BG3 is easily forgotten and not immersive.

OP, if you would go to a star rated restaurant selling dry aged steak, would you order it well-done enough for it to resemble a cooked shoe sole?

Because this part of your post makes me believe you would...
raubrey Aug 20, 2023 @ 7:07am 
I wish I cared enough. Given that so many people defend the game in its current state I think they deserve the future games they will get.
★REM★ Aug 20, 2023 @ 7:09am 
I would like to see a list of where this game does not fail, because that's gonna be much longer than the one of "where it fails"
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