A Bear Cannot Consent

[muu suu nuu]

The title says it all.

It doesn't matter if it's a "druid" or whtever.. At the end of the day, human/animal intercourse is unconsensual and therefore morally evil.

The anime girls and redditors will disagree below.

Also, my other thread got banned for being "combative" lol. Not sure how saying that a bear cannot consent is combative. But these are strange and perverted times, I suppose.

[Atari 2600]

Originally posted by Sikandar:

Originally posted by Drizzt Fan:

Wyoming, New Mexico, Hawaii, and West Virginia do not have laws prohibiting the sexual assault of animals. 2 blue and 2 red states. This means that this is an equal political issue, NOT woke.

Many countries only outlawed child pornography in the 70s

And...that was 50 years ago. What's your point exactly?

They also thought smoking didn't cause lung cancer. Times change.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Drizzt Fan:

And MANY states will allow marrying a teenager, down to 12 years old in some states. Most of them are red MAGA strongholds.

Seriously, in the US this is possible? And consummating the marriage isn't illegal either I'd assume?

In my country we often have refugees having their marriages nullified due to being forcefully married at a very young age, and there is an extremely high bar for nullification compared to divorce.

[Rose]

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

If a druid polymorphing into a bear is not bestiality
Then
A druid polymorphing into a child is not child abuse

They hated him because he told them the truth.

[larhtas]

Originally posted by Rose:

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

If a druid polymorphing into a bear is not bestiality
Then
A druid polymorphing into a child is not child abuse

They hated him because he told them the truth.

Well it is actually completely false.
A druid polymorphing into a bear is not bestiality, it is called: "wild form"
A druid polymorphing into a bear (supposely helped by a wizard because he can't do otherwise) is not called child abuse, it is called: "polymorphism".
So whatever you quoted is just all wrong.

[larhtas]

Originally posted by Rose:

You can turn into a child and have sex in that form according to the lore, but I wonder why THAT isn't in the game, lmao.

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

[ceton27]

Originally posted by Sikandar:

Originally posted by Lily:

You know. Conservatives say leftists have no sense of humor and can't make jokes. But here we are, weeks later and conservatives are still complaining about a joke.

Every accusation conservatives make is an admission of guilt.

Stop creating boogeymen in your head to blame everything on

O the irony when the salt right form the lamergate saga to today comb every damn big title bit by bit to find something to be offended by and cry over the newest game non stop till the next *cough* Mortal Kombat 1 as how women should look! *Its even the same copy pasta form MKX* Plus Starfield when it releases and everything else after that. They blame it all on diversity as the real boogeyman as games stop pandering only to them.

After seeing this for years, it is getting tiresome as players still don't have a problem with the worst modded sex acts ever in The Sims 4 and Skyrim just to spam fascist talking points here to only the project and virtue signal.

[Hyena]

Originally posted by larhtas:

Originally posted by Rose:

You can turn into a child and have sex in that form according to the lore, but I wonder why THAT isn't in the game, lmao.

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

Are you asking for a friend or just looking for some new material?

[Rose]

Originally posted by larhtas:

Originally posted by Rose:

You can turn into a child and have sex in that form according to the lore, but I wonder why THAT isn't in the game, lmao.

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

You can have sex in bear form, so why wouldn't you be able to have sex in any other form?

[Rose]

Originally posted by Hyena:

Originally posted by larhtas:

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

Are you asking for a friend or just looking for some new material?

[larhtas]

Originally posted by Hyena:

Originally posted by larhtas:

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

Are you asking for a friend or just looking for some new material?

No i'm curious about the actual text. Like i can't picture a guy write something like:
Polymorph
4 Transmutation
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: 60 feet
Target: A creature that you can see within range
Components: V S M (A caterpillar cocoon)
Duration: Up to 1 hour
Classes: Bard, Druid, Sorcerer, Wizard
This spell transforms a creature that you can see within range into a new form. An unwilling creature must make a Wisdom saving throw to avoid the effect. The spell has no effect on a shapechanger or a creature with 0 hit points.
The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies. The new form can be any beast whose challenge rating is equal to or less than the target’s (or the target’s level, if it doesn’t have a challenge rating). The target’s game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed. If it reverts as a result of dropping to 0 hit points, any excess damage carries over to its normal form. As long as the excess damage doesn’t reduce the creature’s normal form to 0 hit points, it isn’t knocked unconscious.
The creature is limited in the actions it can perform by the nature of its new form, and it can’t speak, cast spells, or take any other action that requires hands or speech.
The target’s gear melds into the new form. The creature can’t activate, use, wield, or otherwise benefit from any of its equipment.
PRECISION: If you chose a child form, you can have sex.

So yeah i like to have the exact text that he is talking about. I'm pretty sure the bold text that i have added isn't where he pretends it is.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by Rose:

Originally posted by larhtas:

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

You can have sex in bear form, so why wouldn't you be able to have sex in any other form?

Because the person maybe doesnt want to?
Because in BG Polymorph only transforms people into sheep and true polymorph is a 9th level spell only available to characters of level 17 and above?

It's a leading question and arguing in bad faith, that because there is no sex with someone in "child form" the devs knew that "transformed sex is equally bad as non-transformed sex" and therefore they should have known sex in wildshape is evil.

There is no sex with someone in Child form because that's not part of the game and that's it.

It would have been hard to implement fluently and even then would have been almost impossible to frame in a proper way.

But the way Halsin works, you are introduced to him when he's in bear form, he is set up as the archdruid of the emerald grove, it leads up to romance and you end up in a place where he wants to be a bit kinky.

I always feel like this is the same form of argument as saying, that BDSM or Dom/Sub play is wrong, because it is using violence, and violence is wrong, even if it's consensual violence, and that therefore no game or movie should ever depict that.

[larhtas]

Originally posted by Rose:

Originally posted by larhtas:

Also i'm curious that in your google search they specified that you could have sex in the child form. Can you share this source?

You can have sex in bear form, so why wouldn't you be able to have sex in any other form?

It depends on your DM. Here Larian is our DM. Larian isn't even permitting us to use disguise to look like a child. So Larian DM has decided here: no child form permitted.

[Hyena]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Originally posted by Rose:

You can have sex in bear form, so why wouldn't you be able to have sex in any other form?

Because the person maybe doesnt want to?
Because in BG Polymorph only transforms people into sheep and true polymorph is a 9th level spell only available to characters of level 17 and above?

It's a leading question and arguing in bad faith, that because there is no sex with someone in "child form" the devs knew that "transformed sex is equally bad as non-transformed sex" and therefore they should have known sex in wildshape is evil.

There is no sex with someone in Child form because that's not part of the game and that's it.

It would have been hard to implement fluently and even then would have been almost impossible to frame in a proper way.

But the way Halsin works, you are introduced to him when he's in bear form, he is set up as the archdruid of the emerald grove, it leads up to romance and you end up in a place where he wants to be a bit kinky.

I always feel like this is the same form of argument as saying, that BDSM or Dom/Sub play is wrong, because it is using violence, and violence is wrong, even if it's consensual violence, and that therefore no game or movie should ever depict that.

There is also no depiction of sex with a bear. Larian seems to agree such depictions are not okay.

[Malthar]

Originally posted by larhtas:

Originally posted by Hyena:

Are you asking for a friend or just looking for some new material?

No i'm curious about the actual text. Like i can't picture a guy write something like:
Polymorph
4 Transmutation
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: 60 feet
Target: A creature that you can see within range
Components: V S M (A caterpillar cocoon)
Duration: Up to 1 hour
Classes: Bard, Druid, Sorcerer, Wizard
This spell transforms a creature that you can see within range into a new form. An unwilling creature must make a Wisdom saving throw to avoid the effect. The spell has no effect on a shapechanger or a creature with 0 hit points.
The transformation lasts for the duration, or until the target drops to 0 hit points or dies. The new form can be any beast whose challenge rating is equal to or less than the target’s (or the target’s level, if it doesn’t have a challenge rating). The target’s game statistics, including mental ability scores, are replaced by the statistics of the chosen beast. It retains its alignment and personality.
The target assumes the hit points of its new form. When it reverts to its normal form, the creature returns to the number of hit points it had before it transformed. If it reverts as a result of dropping to 0 hit points, any excess damage carries over to its normal form. As long as the excess damage doesn’t reduce the creature’s normal form to 0 hit points, it isn’t knocked unconscious.
The creature is limited in the actions it can perform by the nature of its new form, and it can’t speak, cast spells, or take any other action that requires hands or speech.
The target’s gear melds into the new form. The creature can’t activate, use, wield, or otherwise benefit from any of its equipment.
PRECISION: If you chose a child form, you can have sex.

So yeah i like to have the exact text that he is talking about. I'm pretty sure the bold text that i have added isn't where he pretends it is.

why would any physical form be unable to have sex, within the lore of the game its possible, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up but possible

[larhtas]

Originally posted by Hyena:

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

Because the person maybe doesnt want to?
Because in BG Polymorph only transforms people into sheep and true polymorph is a 9th level spell only available to characters of level 17 and above?

It's a leading question and arguing in bad faith, that because there is no sex with someone in "child form" the devs knew that "transformed sex is equally bad as non-transformed sex" and therefore they should have known sex in wildshape is evil.

There is no sex with someone in Child form because that's not part of the game and that's it.

It would have been hard to implement fluently and even then would have been almost impossible to frame in a proper way.

But the way Halsin works, you are introduced to him when he's in bear form, he is set up as the archdruid of the emerald grove, it leads up to romance and you end up in a place where he wants to be a bit kinky.

I always feel like this is the same form of argument as saying, that BDSM or Dom/Sub play is wrong, because it is using violence, and violence is wrong, even if it's consensual violence, and that therefore no game or movie should ever depict that.

There is also no depiction of sex with a bear. Larian seems to agree such depictions are not okay.

+1