Not so squishy casters

[salatrin]

I always thought spellcasters were supposed to be the squishy ones, but yet in my game, my level 3 Sorcerer/level 2 Warlock who is wearing cloth robes, has a higher AC then any other member of my squad.

Astarian, Rogue 3/Ranger 2 - 15 AC
Shadowheart, Life Cleric 5 - 16 AC
Lae'zel, BM Fighter 5 - 16 AC
MC, Sorcerer 3 Warlock 2 - 17 AC

Just seems wierd.

[女王 [Queen]]

Originally posted by salatrin:

I always thought spellcasters were supposed to be the squishy ones, but yet in my game, my level 3 Sorcerer/level 2 Warlock who is wearing cloth robes, has a higher AC then any other member of my squad.

Astarian, Rogue 3/Ranger 2 - 15 AC
Shadowheart, Life Cleric 5 - 16 AC
Lae'zel, BM Fighter 5 - 16 AC
MC, Sorcerer 3 Warlock 2 - 17 AC

Just seems wierd.

gear, stat distribution, etc. all play a significant part
also just cuz you have high AC doesn't mean you're actually durable against what matters

[Avem]

You're gonna have less HP in general. Just make sure to gear your tanks appropriately.

[Toblm]

Honestly your fighter and Cleric seem kinda squishy.
Seems like both should be in heavy armor which ought to be closer to 20 AC.
Even good medium armor should be closer to 18 AC.

[Agony_Aunt]

By Level 5 you should be close to end of act 1 or start of act 2, meaning either you have the forge armour or full plate. Lazael should have at least 18 AC by now and Shadowheart at least 18 with her shield spell and a shield in the off-hand.

Wizards can get good AC because they generally wear clothes so get full DEX bonus and can add mage armour on top.

Also, your Sorc is your MC, so i bet you're giving them the best defensive stuff, like the gloves that increase DEX or items that increase AC, so make sure you're comparing fairly.

[Recjawjind]

Those AC values are in severe need of PUMPING :D

My gale (wizard 12) has literally 1000+ of EHP, and 24 permanent AC.

Abjuration wizard is the tankiest class in this game by an unfathomable margin.

[cfehunter]

Take one level of war cleric and put your casters in full plate with a shield, there's no arcane spell failure rate in 5e and you can 1hand staves.

HP is massively bloated in BG3 too.

[Hobocop]

Both Shadowheart (life cleric) and Lae'zel can easily have 17 AC by this point with chainmail +1 from a vendor.

[Celestial]

Your lvl 2/3 entire party is squishington at that stage, don't worry about it.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by cfehunter:

Take one level of war cleric and put your casters in full plate with a shield, there's no arcane spell failure rate in 5e and you can 1hand staves.

HP is massively bloated in BG3 too.

With robe of the weave, I don't think heavy armor is a worthwhile tradeoff, when you can still get AC in the mid 20s without compromising your to hit and spellsave dc.

[Tizodd]

Originally posted by salatrin:

I always thought spellcasters were supposed to be the squishy ones, but yet in my game, my level 3 Sorcerer/level 2 Warlock who is wearing cloth robes, has a higher AC then any other member of my squad.

Astarian, Rogue 3/Ranger 2 - 15 AC
Shadowheart, Life Cleric 5 - 16 AC
Lae'zel, BM Fighter 5 - 16 AC
MC, Sorcerer 3 Warlock 2 - 17 AC

Just seems wierd.

Seems like an issue with your gear/stat allocation.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023822504

[pedrofrigoli]

Originally posted by Tizodd:

Originally posted by salatrin:

I always thought spellcasters were supposed to be the squishy ones, but yet in my game, my level 3 Sorcerer/level 2 Warlock who is wearing cloth robes, has a higher AC then any other member of my squad.

Astarian, Rogue 3/Ranger 2 - 15 AC
Shadowheart, Life Cleric 5 - 16 AC
Lae'zel, BM Fighter 5 - 16 AC
MC, Sorcerer 3 Warlock 2 - 17 AC

Just seems wierd.

Seems like an issue with your gear/stat allocation.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023822504

I agree on what you say, but comparing a 5 lvl character and gear with yours just weakens your point.

My recommendation is to use shield in most cases, and also, if it's not problem for you, respec your companions... you can let them have the same classes so their roleplay is intact, but most companions have awful attributes distribution.

Lae'zel should have 14 dex, so her AC without shield is 17, or you can give her a heavy armor, which is sold at shops for 17 AC by level 5, I'm pretty sure.

For shadowhart you also should respec for 14 dex, and buy some 15 AC medium armor, to take her to 17, and she should have a shield too... you shouldn't have a great benefit to dual weild or use a two handed weapon with your cleric... so she should have at least 19
Astarion at level 5 should have +4 dex, and mage armor for a +3 for a total of 17 (mage armor lasts until long rest, and doesn't need concentration)

So actually the LEAST AC you should have with each one is 17

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

I wish Bladesingers were added. Get some real fun high AC gish action goin.

[Recjawjind]

Thought I'd post my mostly still unoptimized build, I think I'm around halfway trough act 3 at this point, and there is still a lot that can be improved about it, I just never felt the need since I haven't had anyone go down since act 1 on tactician.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Recjawjind/screenshot/2012599246974065600/

[Pixel_Kitsune]

Well, looking at that team at level 5.

Sorc should realistically be 12-18 depending on race and subclass. Draconian 13 base, shield from Human or 1/2 elf, 3 from dex.

Astarion as a rogue should have at least 16 at level 5 with +1 padded armor and 18 Dex

Level should be around 17 from Chain+1.

Shadowheart should be around 19 with 14 dex, shield, scale +1 or the like.

[Tizodd]

Originally posted by pedrofrigoli:

Originally posted by Tizodd:

Seems like an issue with your gear/stat allocation.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023822504

I agree on what you say, but comparing a 5 lvl character and gear with yours just weakens your point...

Older screenshot from when my group was level 5. Again...it comes down to stat allocation and gear.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023981516