Baldur's Gate 3

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John Cena Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:44pm
Bonespike Boots
This item is supposed to give +1 bonus to AC if a character isn't holding a shield OR wearing armor.

So why isn't it giving my Laezel a +1 to AC when she is wearing an armor but not using a shield?!?!

Is it bugged? Is this happening to anyone else?

EDIT: I am retarded
Last edited by John Cena; Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:06pm
Originally posted by Razorblade:
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
It's an or statement. I can either not hold a shield OR not wear armor. Right?

EDIT: Here's the full text:

You have a +1 bonus to Armour Class and Saving Throws as long as you are not wearing armour or holding a shield.
If that was the case, the description would be "You have a +1 bonus to Armour Class and Saving Throws as long as you are not wearing armour and holding a shield."

The "or" implies wearing armor and holding a shield are two separate fail states.
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BigAlzBub Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:50pm 
It is in the description. You are wearing armour, so you don't qualify.
John Cena Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:51pm 
Originally posted by BigAlzBub:
It is in the description. You are wearing armour, so you don't qualify.

It's an or statement. I can either not hold a shield OR not wear armor. Right?

EDIT: Here's the full text:

You have a +1 bonus to Armour Class and Saving Throws as long as you are not wearing armour or holding a shield.
Last edited by John Cena; Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:52pm
Gaius Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:52pm 
Luke Skywalker no speak english, only Jedi language
Hobocop Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Yes, it's either or, not both. So Lae'zel doesn't qualify.

Monk's unarmored defense has the same wording.
Ghostorias Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:54pm 
Man your IQ is low if you can't read and this might not be the game for as it requires a functioning brain
BigAlzBub Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
It isn't that kind of OR statement. If you wear either, no soup for you....
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Razorblade Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
It's an or statement. I can either not hold a shield OR not wear armor. Right?

EDIT: Here's the full text:

You have a +1 bonus to Armour Class and Saving Throws as long as you are not wearing armour or holding a shield.
If that was the case, the description would be "You have a +1 bonus to Armour Class and Saving Throws as long as you are not wearing armour and holding a shield."

The "or" implies wearing armor and holding a shield are two separate fail states.
Last edited by Razorblade; Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:00pm
John Cena Aug 19, 2023 @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by BigAlzBub:
It isn't that kind of OR statement. If you wear either, no soup for you....

Then it should be a AND statement.

OR implies one or the other.
Hobocop Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
Originally posted by BigAlzBub:
It isn't that kind of OR statement. If you wear either, no soup for you....

Then it should be a AND statement.

OR implies one or the other.

That's the point. AND would imply that you must not be wearing armor AND holding a shield to benefit, which is clearly not the intent.
Last edited by Hobocop; Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:01pm
BigAlzBub Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
Originally posted by BigAlzBub:
It isn't that kind of OR statement. If you wear either, no soup for you....

Then it should be a AND statement.

OR implies one or the other.

You would be correct if this were boolean logic, but it isn't.
John Cena Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:06pm 
ok ok i am retarded thanks every1
Razorblade Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by Luke Skywalker:
OR implies one or the other.
Right, you enter a fail state if you wear armor or if you use a shield.

The problem seems to be that you think the description is a logical OR, when it's actually logical NOR. The statement is structured "You will not get the benefit if A or B."

With a NOR statement:
  • A and B is false
  • A or B is false
  • B or A is false
  • not A and not B is true
Last edited by Razorblade; Aug 19, 2023 @ 4:14pm
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